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428cj Offline
#51 Posted:
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Thanks for sharing your views again AJ.
rd2thbn Offline
#52 Posted:
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I'd much rather have a President that makes a decision based on what he believes - then sticks with it to see that decision through - than to have one that changes his opinion with the polls.

Take Jimmy Carter for example. I think he was one of the worst Presidents ever, policy wise, but you knew - and still know - where he stands. He's a honorable man - just wrong.

I firmly believe George Bush has the same type character. He's an honorable man. I also believe that George Bush is on the right track. I thank God every night that he's our President.
pabloescabar Offline
#53 Posted:
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^
now thats what Im talking about.


hey, Robby nice words as always.


and after alls been said Kerry is still a KOOK!
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#54 Posted:
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I'd much rather have a president that could see through all of the smoke being blown up his proverbial in order to make his own decision! God told George that he was doing the right thing, while the same God told the Muslims that George W. was Satan! Go figure! I pray to God every night that George W. doesn't talk to God again.
HockeyDad Offline
#55 Posted:
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"Do you think there are people who voted for Bush who think we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons and we should not be in Iraq?...that "terrorism" is now on the rise instead of diminishing?... that we are making five more terrorists for each one killed?..."


AJ_CHICAGO,

Let's play a game. Pretend you are a US Senator who has just been elected President of the United States and you are now in your first 100 days in office. You feel exactly as stated in your above quote. You used the above quote as a platform in your election bid. Now that you are in office, what do you do to "remedy" the situation?
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#56 Posted:
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Not sure. That's like asking someone to put the genie back into the bottle or the hornets back into the nest. I'm not sure. Let's say I'm not yet elected. I'm torn between (A)pick a Jewish VP", (B)pick a muslim VP, (C)go ahead and invade Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Libya, Morocco, Kenya, Indonesia, Pakistan, Germany, and France....for a start. I sure wouldn't want to talk, to negotiate with these and other friendly countries. My stick's bigger than your stick so why should I have to deal with any of you.....right? Just like Jesus Christ said, "You're either with me, or against me"........right? Or was the George W?........I get them confused.
E-Chick Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 06-15-2002
Posts: 4,877
Kerry who?

LMAO........................Marla
HockeyDad Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
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AJ_CHICAGO,

If a political candidate is running an election based on the belief that the current President "let the genie out of the bottle" and the candidate claims to be able to do a better job, the candidate has a responsibility to offer a plan for how to "put the genie back in the bottle." After all, if the genie really is out of the bottle, one of the requirements of the job is to put it back in the bottle and anyone running for President should be fully aware of that job requirement.

When criticizing the current president over his pronunciation of the word "nuclear", keep in mind that when faced with a real world situation that any incoming President would face, your answer was "I'm not sure". It is easy to complain about something but much harder to offer viable solutions.

Since you are not sure of your answer, feel free to insert your preferred presidential candidate's plan for putting the genie back in the bottle in place of your plan and test to see if it will be an adaquate substitution.

Every candidate running for President should be expected to offer viable solutions.
Robby Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
YEAH, I'm pretty pissed off that Clinton and his administration didn't find a cure for cancer while they were in. He was there for 8 years for God's sake! And still no cure for cancer? How could he have dropped the ball like that? I'm sure glad the dem's didn't win in 2000 since they had 8 years to cure cancer and did NOTHING!!
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 10-27-2003
Posts: 189
Not sure. That's like asking someone to put the genie back into the bottle or the hornets back into the nest. I'm not sure. Let's say I'm not yet elected. I'm torn between (A)pick a Jewish VP", (B)pick a muslim VP, (C)go ahead and invade Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Libya, Morocco, Kenya, Indonesia, Pakistan, Germany, and France....for a start. I sure wouldn't want to talk, to negotiate with these and other friendly countries. My stick's bigger than your stick so why should I have to deal with any of you.....right? Just like Jesus Christ said, "You're either with me, or against me".....right? Or was the George W? I get them confused. Aw, to Hell with Spain! They're just a bunch of hot headed, fast talking, nitwits anyway.....right? To Hell with anyone who doesn't agree with ****** Cheney and Don Rumsfeld! And that includes Colin Powell, that pansy.....right? Afraid of the repercussions of smearing some Arab and American blood around in the sand. What's he thinking? Poor Colin, he must be tossing and turning. He's got to be torn between loyalty and doing what he thinks is right. He may be ruined by this administration because of his loyalty. I think I would have voted for him. I hope he distances himself somehow, but I can't see how without resigning.
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#61 Posted:
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Hockeydad, that holds true for incumbents who started the mess, too. What's the plan now? You seem to know. UN? No UN? How much is it going to cost us next year? When will we be out of there? One year? Twenty years? Will Iraq ever have a stable government? Not sure?
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#62 Posted:
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Question. Viet Nam. Democratic war. Republican war. Good intentions. Bad judgements. Did all of those with their names on the wall in Washington die in vain?
Robby Offline
#63 Posted:
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AJ? And my question? How is it that the Clinton admin had 8 YEARS TO CURE CANCER! AND DID NOTHING!! Do you think we need a comission to look in to this? Why are you dodging this important question?
Robby Offline
#64 Posted:
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BTW AJ, you seem to be filled with "questions" as well as arguably other things... But you don't seem to really have a position on solutions or answers. It seems all you like to do is bitch, like my ex. Do you have any constructive ideas? Or are you just filled with hate?
Robby Offline
#65 Posted:
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BTW AJ, you seem to be filled with "questions" as well as arguably other things... But you don't seem to really have a position on solutions or answers. It seems all you like to do is bitch, like my ex. Do you have any constructive ideas? Or are you just filled with hate?
Robby Offline
#66 Posted:
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Since this was such a good post, I think I'll hit it just one more time... BTW AJ, you seem to be filled with "questions" as well as arguably other things... But you don't seem to really have a position on solutions or answers. It seems all you like to do is bitch, like my ex. Do you have any constructive ideas? Or are you just filled with hate?
428cj Offline
#67 Posted:
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Good post(s) Robby. You too HockeyDad. Good luck though in trying to get any answers to your questions. Some people here love to criticize as loudly as they can, yet can't or don't want to clarify their positions or offer better solutions (ahhhh, have to love the EASY way...). I guess that some are just comforted by attacking others (and name calling) and in hearing themselves complain and whine. Kind of sad.

Good try though you two, but don't hold your breath waiting for any answers from him/them.
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#68 Posted:
Joined: 10-27-2003
Posts: 189
Yes, some just come across as plain angry. Some dwell on the past. Some, you know are single minded. I don't think I am one. Robby, you have a chip on your shoulder and are just looking for someone to knock it off. Some get really ticked off when someone won't take a stand against them, because that's all they are looking for. Some don't really THINK. Some have "ex's" for a reason. I don't like Clinton much. Never voted for him. I don't like Bush more. I have a dad who is an ex-marine. He doesn't like Bush with a passion. No one except the Bush administration is responsible for our military being in a strange land fighting a strange "war". It was a DECISION made.
Robby Offline
#69 Posted:
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Ahhh, there it is, the ad-homonym attack. When the arguments fail, the mentally week resort to it EVERYTIME! Way to go A-Gay, thanks for not letting me down ;-)

BTW, did you happen to catch the waffler, AKA, your man in November? This AM on ABC? He was saying how he did not throw his medals over the fence in after the war? But he did throw his ribbons? Then they played a clip of him being interviewed as a punk in the 70s and he said “Yes I threw my medals over the fence, I threw my Bronze Star, my Silver Star, and my two Purple Hearts.” What joke! This man is a disgrace and so is anyone stupid enough to vote for him. Why not save yourself the embarrassment and vote for Nader? LOL!
428cj Offline
#70 Posted:
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Thanks again AJ for helping me prove my point, I do appreciate it. And thanks for mentioning your dad, the info that he hates Bush was extremely appropriate. How I'm not sure, but since you had to include it I'm sure it was (if anything at least to you I guess). Good job again.
428cj Offline
#71 Posted:
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Oh, I forgot somthing AJ. Please explain to me how being of differing political views than you makes me single minded. Assuming my question isn't too emotional for you to respond to of course (I wouldn't want to upset you or anything). Really, I'd like to know how you've defined me this way. So by this logic is everyone who disagrees with you on anything simply wrong and single minded??? Funny guy.
EI Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
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AJ there is no such thing as an EX Marine. Once a Marine always a Marine. Unless he was drummed out of the corp.
You should apoligize to you father for insulting him like that
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#73 Posted:
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There aren't easy answers to hatred and a religion based on it. I'm afraid all we have managed to do is stir the hornets' nest. I think we have to stay there with targets on our backs for now, regardless of the party in the White House. Sorry, I don't have the answers to attaining world peace, but then they don't pay me for that. Robby, perhaps you could enlighten us.
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#74 Posted:
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EI...sorry, I should have known that. Your reprimand is well taken.
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#75 Posted:
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CJ, I said "some" and you took it personally. Why? I mentioned my dad for the benefit of others who don't see any other "military" opinions on this forum. Truly, you need to go back and reread these posts and see where the emotion is coming from.
428cj Offline
#76 Posted:
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I appreciate you thinking you know more about me than I do, but I hate to tell you you're wrong. Not in your political view, but in knowing about me personally. Your opinion is yours, and mine is mine. I have no reason to attack you for it, but each to their own. And nothing I say here is emotional, it's for entertainment. I couldn't have made it as far as I have in my career if people like you upset me! Honestly! No offense, but you're not worth getting upset about!

And mentioning your dad, I know people who are or were in the military who feel both ways. So what? An individual's opinion is just that, an opinion. I've talked with many people who have recently been over in Iraq and they're quite set in their views on what's going on over there. But I won't bore you with more emotions, you wouldn't want to hear what they had to say anyway (I'm sure you'd say THEY are wrong too, based on all of your facts). But what would they know, they've only been serving there for our country. Just like you?

Sigh... Now go ahead and tell me the error of my ways and why those I mentioned are wrong. I know you enjoy trying.
Robby Offline
#77 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
Hey A-gay, why don't you send me your snailer so we can meet sometime in Chicago? I'd love to introduce myself "personally"... [email protected]
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