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teedubbya Offline
#51 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 12:28 PM EST
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Posts: 95,637
*shrug* it is.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
gringococolo Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 12:29 PM EST
Joined: 02-04-2006
Posts: 4,626
Northsidepk wrote:
Hey Illinois just raised their state income tax to 7%. I don't hear any outcry about that.


Add the Fed. Income tax, Social Sec. Medicare and state income tax and a person making 75K+ a year in Illinois now gives up close to 40% of their income in taxes.


How would you like to make 75K a year and take home less than 35K after you contribute to your own 401K and buy your own health insurance.




BS alert.

You need help with your taxes if you are paying 40%.
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 12:36 PM EST
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Posts: 95,637
Ahhh the magic denominator trick.
Stinkdyr Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 12:38 PM EST
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Posts: 9,948
Vote Libertarian.

You will..............eventually.
It is just a question of how much pain you are willing to accept at the hands of the status quo incumbent Demicans and Republicrats first.


Freedom............whatta radical concept.

Herfing
teedubbya Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 1:24 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Vote Libertarian.

You will..............eventually.
It is just a question of how much pain you are willing to accept at the hands of the status quo incubment Demicans and Republicrats first.


Freedom............whatta radical concept.

Herfing



S h i t. I've been doing it wrong. I voted Librarian.
Papachristou Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 2:03 PM EST
Joined: 10-20-2010
Posts: 845
write your policians!

you guys have crazy speeding laws, cant carry firearms and now, no STOGIES!!! time to move i think. ram27bat
Peoria Perfecto Purveyor Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 2:25 PM EST
Joined: 12-28-2008
Posts: 3,050
Just had another thought

Are you still allowed to receive cigars in trade ?

Will I get in trouble sending cigars to Maryland ?

If I can send you cigars but c-bid is banned ...

it all but proves it is only about the money !!!

Also ... if these laws spread ... the government

once again not giving a sh1t about the

employees ( of the internet cigar sites )
iambull Offline
#58 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 3:14 PM EST
Joined: 04-18-2007
Posts: 4
FuzzNJ wrote:
lol, I live in the highest taxed state in the country. Not including unemployment, the government spends around 300 billion or so on welfare programs and almost 900 billion on military expenditures. I am more upset with the latter.




Youre insane.
Tax dollars spent on military spending re-circulate through the economy and each time they are, a tax is paid

Welfare expenditures are once through and done, especially if they are vouchers or wic cards



The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money
-Margret Thatcher-
rfenst Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 3:15 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,383
Here is how it will eventually all shake out: One or more states will sue CI/CBid to force it to collect and remit sales tax to each state. It already happened with Internet travel sites here in Florida to recoup the hotel tax that wasn't being paid. This will turn out no differently.
teedubbya Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 3:17 PM EST
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just order from abroad. Better and cheaper smokes. No tax.
jig+pig Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, May 10 2011, 7:07 PM EST
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Posts: 1,349
Papachristou wrote:
write your policians!

you guys have crazy speeding laws, cant carry firearms and now, no STOGIES!!! time to move i think. ram27bat



already crossed my mind.........

St. Lucia here I come!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#62 Posted: Wed, May 11 2011, 7:17 AM EST
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
jig+pig wrote:
already crossed my mind.........

St. Lucia here I come!



Have you ever been there?

They take the "art" of street begging to levels that make me want to puke!

Been to that island several times on cruises and resort weeks. The last time I stayed on the damn ship and when I was at the resort I NEVER left it!

That island is a pox on what is the beauty of the Caribbean. Wanna go to a nice one? Antigua...St. Maarten...St.Barts...Van ******...St. Vincent...Martinique...but see, you're not escaping anything. The cost of goods is higher. The landscape is nice don't get me wrong, but look what a gallon of milk costs or the taxes on a house or villa and get back to me.

If you really want to run...Panama, Costa Rica, Belize..even Argentina would be better destinations for cheaper living with a modicum of the life you're used to living now.

Just saying'.
Stinkdyr Offline
#63 Posted: Wed, May 11 2011, 8:02 AM EST
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and Argentina has hot babes............but Panama, Nicaragua.....not so much.

as Frank Zappa says...."maybe you should go to Managua, you could go unnoticed in such a place."

Whistle
jig+pig Offline
#64 Posted: Wed, May 11 2011, 8:34 AM EST
Joined: 12-30-2010
Posts: 1,349
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Have you ever been there?

They take the "art" of street begging to levels that make me want to puke!

Been to that island several times on cruises and resort weeks. The last time I stayed on the damn ship and when I was at the resort I NEVER left it!

That island is a pox on what is the beauty of the Caribbean. Wanna go to a nice one? Antigua...St. Maarten...St.Barts...Van ******...St. Vincent...Martinique...but see, you're not escaping anything. The cost of goods is higher. The landscape is nice don't get me wrong, but look what a gallon of milk costs or the taxes on a house or villa and get back to me.

If you really want to run...Panama, Costa Rica, Belize..even Argentina would be better destinations for cheaper living with a modicum of the life you're used to living now.

Just saying'.


Have only been there on a cruise. I could see the begging from the balcony! I was just venting. They DO have Piton beer though! can't get it in the states.

I would rather stay in the states, if i ever move. It just sucks to see the politicians ruining one of the best places on earth! My opinion of course. within a short drive you can be at the ocean, mountains, farmlands and the Chesapeake Bay! Some of the very best bass fishing on the planet!

You know, this country was built on tobacco from right here in good ole MD! Now the farmers here are given incentives to NOT grow tobacco!

It just sucks!

St. Maarten here I come! Now we're talkin.......
Northsidepk Offline
#65 Posted: Thu, May 12 2011, 2:22 PM EST
Joined: 10-22-2010
Posts: 2,263
ZRX1200 wrote:
You going to south america again?

How's da wifey north?



LOL, oh shes good.....We just got back from our last little outing before the baby comes(went to Biloxi Mississippi for a little gambling). On the way home this afternoon she started having what we believe are very minor contractions....Baby is most likely not coming yet but is DEFINITELY getting ready too. Prolly this next week sometime!
badge3ty Offline
#66 Posted: Sat, May 14 2011, 7:36 PM EST
Joined: 03-02-2006
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Cigar Bid should start collecting Maryland taxes for purchases made by Maryland consumers. Cigar Bid would keep Maryland customers and the state would get the revenue that is the main objective in passing this law. This should make Maryland happy because they don't really care about the local cigar shops as much as they want the taxes. I just want to be able to buy a wide variety of smokes and the Cigar Bid deals would still be good even if taxes were added. Luckily my humidor is loaded with a year's supply of quality smokes so maybe this bit of bad news will be corrected before I run out.
jig+pig Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, May 16 2011, 12:31 PM EST
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^^I think this will be the outcome but who knows how long it will take.
Smoke_Rings Offline
#68 Posted: Tue, May 17 2011, 9:31 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2007
Posts: 391
Maryland resident here. I just read about this BS on cigaraficionado.com.

So how's this gonna work? Will CI/Cbid not ship to MD anymore or will shipping companies be required to confiscated or refuse to deliver orders?

There's plenty of stuff I order over the internet for two reasons. I can get a pretty good discount and I don't pay taxes on some items not all. Its also convenient. Is Maryland eventually going to ban all purchases over the internet? No. This is simply another BS move on cigars and tobacco...complete BS!
Nicar Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, May 17 2011, 9:49 AM EST
Joined: 03-18-2010
Posts: 14,972
Smoke_Rings wrote:
Maryland resident here. I just read about this BS on cigaraficionado.com.

So how's this gonna work? Will CI/Cbid not ship to MD anymore or will shipping companies be required to confiscated or refuse to deliver orders?

There's plenty of stuff I order over the internet for two reasons. I can get a pretty good discount and I don't pay taxes on some items not all. Its also convenient. Is Maryland eventually going to ban all purchases over the internet? No. This is simply another BS move on cigars and tobacco...complete BS!


Already stopped shipping to MD at the moment
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