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Study: Political Leaning Indicated by Genetic/Organic Brain Structure Differences
DrMaddVibe Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,469
rfenst wrote:
Apparently, you lacked free will to spell correctly when you posted!!! LOL!


Anyhow, I have always thought of the concept of "free will" in terms of philosophies such as whether there is an omnipotent god, determinism, deistical control- and the like.

If you want to argue the existence of absolute free will in a non-dietiacayal concept, such that neurobiological or biological matters don't exist or aren't part of a decision or human event, then, please start by merely consciously, mentally cutting off the blood supply to your extremities; your heart or even your brain; or making yourself taller/shorter; male/female; big -footed/little footed; etc.

You can't. Not everything we do or that happens is the product of pure rational thought.





OH NOES...IT'S THE GRAMMA POPO!!!


COMIN' TO GIT ME!!!

Really?

Merriam-Webster...they have this thing called a Dictionary. Wonderful book.

free·will adj
Definition of FREEWILL
voluntary, spontaneous

Examples of FREEWILL
a freewill confession of guilt made by the suspect during police interrogation
our office staff made a freewill offering for UNESCO

Then again...who likes just one source?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/freewill
HockeyDad Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,151
My genetics refuse to let me spell it as "freewill".
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,469
HockeyDad wrote:
My genetics refuse to let me spell it as "freewill".



I'm unhindered!
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,199
Rfenst,
With so many of the posters running off pie-eyed on tangents and talking points, I’m not so sure your logic is . . . fully understood. Hell, in light of the assertion that there is no truth, even I am struggling with what rational to present . . . .

Back to the OP – While it does not put conservatism in a favorable light, it does stand to reason. I also suspect that liberals have some short comings in their reasoning, and maybe brain lobes as well.

BTW;
From the Los Angeles Times:
September 10, 2007

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

In a simple experiment reported to day in the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information.

Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions.

The results show "there are two cognitive styles -- a liberal style and a conservative style," said UCLA neurologist Dr. Marco Iacoboni, who was not connected to the latest research.
teedubbya Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
free willy!
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,151
Brewha wrote:
Hell, in light of the assertion that there is no truth, even I am struggling with what rational to present . . . .





Just make something up. That is what I would do.

If a bear s%$ts in the woods, can trees think it smells awful?
HockeyDad Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,151
Brewha wrote:

Back to the OP – While it does not put conservatism in a favorable light, it does stand to reason. I also suspect that liberals have some short comings in their reasoning, and maybe brain lobes as well.




That is why we need to find the cure. Ima gonna put you down as a participant in the "Cure Liberalism 5K/10K" run. We need you to get $200 in sponsors. T-shirts will be provided to the entrants.
chiefburg Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 01-31-2005
Posts: 7,384
Brewha wrote:
Rfenst,
With so many of the posters running off pie-eyed on tangents and talking points, I’m not so sure your logic is . . . fully understood. Hell, in light of the assertion that there is no truth, even I am struggling with what rational to present . . . .

Back to the OP – While it does not put conservatism in a favorable light, it does stand to reason. I also suspect that liberals have some short comings in their reasoning, and maybe brain lobes as well.

BTW;
From the Los Angeles Times:
September 10, 2007

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

In a simple experiment reported to day in the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information.

Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions.

The results show "there are two cognitive styles -- a liberal style and a conservative style," said UCLA neurologist Dr. Marco Iacoboni, who was not connected to the latest research.

I do agree with the basics - liberal type thinking (not related to politics) and more conservative type thinking (again, this isn't political). Some people tend to be more tolerant and open than others. Conversely, others may remain reserved and very narrow in their thinking. While this may play into the political field, there is no such thing as a "political" gene that makes someone a Democrat or Rebupican or Libertarian.........I find that part of the article misleading.

Is the liberal mind better than the conservative mind? Or, the conservative mind better than the liberal? (If you chose one over the other, you're wrong. One isn't any better or worse than the other in their own minds. The best you could call them is "different" and not label them any other way.)
rfenst Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,336
DrMaddVibe wrote:
OH NOES...IT'S THE GRAMMA POPO!!!


COMIN' TO GIT ME!!!

Really?

Merriam-Webster...they have this thing called a Dictionary. Wonderful book.

free·will adj
Definition of FREEWILL
voluntary, spontaneous

Examples of FREEWILL
a freewill confession of guilt made by the suspect during police interrogation
our office staff made a freewill offering for UNESCO

Then again...who likes just one source?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/freewill



Well, at least I learned a new word for Scrabble!
rfenst Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,336
Yo!

Look at the title again. Different parts of the brain in "conservatives" and "liberals" indicate leaning. It does not say that genetics causes one's leanings.

There just is no place like the CBid Political Forum to get off track and into a totally different direction!

Like I didn't know that would happen...
Brewha Offline
#61 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,199
HockeyDad wrote:
That is why we need to find the cure. Ima gonna put you down as a participant in the "Cure Liberalism 5K/10K" run. We need you to get $200 in sponsors. T-shirts will be provided to the entrants.


Liberalism may well be curable – but don’t think I’ll opt to have some of my brain removed.

As to conservatism – I assure you, there is no cure.
Really - it is for life . . . .
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