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The Federalist Papers are what they used to communicate to every citizen (see they didn't have American Idol back then) because they valued reading and wanted to know what we were fighting for! Educate yourself.

That bunch of rich, white men...many of whom lost loved ones...fortunes...created a document that many regard as the finest ever created as a basis for a government...so an idiot such as yourself could proclaim aburdities about it being an open ended document to change with the nation. They enabled that function because they were wise enough to see that it's not perfect. They also made it difficult to change for that reason!

Thanks for showing all the board how you cannot grasp that.


Why how would we have such a rebellion every 20 years if we didn't have the ability with the same weapons as the government we're supposed to overthrow?


Yeah.

So, your selective memory only goes so far...got it.

Yes, there was a LOT of fighting going on, but I digress you are the big Constitutional "expert"...those "ignant" citizens wanted the 411...as to what was going on in the Congress...why it was taking so long. All you can do is bring the "debt" to the table?

You dare mention "cherry picking"?

Please.

I'd be willing to state that there were more voracious and competent readers say in the states of MA, NY and VA COMBINED back then than there are now in present day Wayne county Michigan! Could everyone attend college back then? No. At least back then they would go into the "family" business, pioneer or some other...wait...I know...they were scalped that's it...scalped or plagued with disease. Scalped, plagues and famine. Maybe not in that order, but The Man did it to them and they're responsible. I shudder to think what a man like Thomas Jefferson would do with the Information Superhighway. A tour of Monticello shows the visitor what the man did with the tools at his disposal, oh wait...you're going to say the slaves did it all aren't you? Yes, the slavemaster Jefferson whipped them until he flayed the skin off their bones...yes he did...that's ALL he did...and in his spare time he crafted the Constitution. Why the crafty ol' Devil hisself...whatever. Seen your type trying to take the same stance in the classrooms. That dog don't hunt. What you have is the government and the history we ALL share. It's not pretty. There were wrongs committed and it took better men than Jefferson to right them; however they did it under the same government he helped create. The blood this nation has shed to right the wrongs would fill an ocean, but you're expecting more? Is this nation so evil that you cannot live here anymore or are you the agent of change a divine entity divulged the wrongs and you're going to right them all? The aborted babies? Climate change? Over-population? Famine? Peace? What wrong did you forget because you're stuck with the "educated, white, property-owning, males with the means to inform themselves" types. You're forgetting it is an open ended process that this Grand Experiment really is.

The people read more then they do now. They didn't have tv...radio...telegraph...telephones...they had newspapers. It took days and weeks to reach the people. In most cases they'd read the entire thing front to back multiple times. You choose to make this some racial bender by interjecting the quote above. The ONLY point you made is that you want to racebait like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson!

Then again, after reading The Federalist Papers...link provided, you're welcome...

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fedpapers.html

You'd be able to deduce that you don't have to be a rocket surgeon to figure it all out. It's cliff note format is pretty basic. STILL can't figure it out? Well, back then you were encouraged to engage in conversation. Unless you're yoked by the neck and aren't "educated, white, property-owning, males with the means to inform themselves" ignant. You're stuck in the mud with the "educated, white, property-owning, males with the means to inform themselves" not willing to do anything for yourself. C'mon...you're better than that...aren't you?

Uninteresting outrage

Thanks for having me.

Having you?

Nope.

You took the "educated, white, property-owning, males with the means to inform themselves" line..NOT me...the minute you went to Boo-Hoo town...I KNEW exactly which side your bread is buttered on and called it out. That dog don't hunt! Not today not yesterday.

You're the one crying the blues.

You're washed up old "oh, The Man is keepin' me down" schtick is amusing. Even with a degree...can't take the boy out of the trailer park and can't take the trailer park out of the boy! You're slipping.

BooHootown is in need of a mayor...you'd be perfect, but oh wait...you'll never leave the classroom where you can pontificate and spew your garbage.

Whats the marxist professors favorite cigar?

BooHootown...where the Vagisil flows like water and the repressed scream "educated, white, property-owning, males with the means to inform themselves" are keeping me down all the time! What do we want?...Repairations...when do we want it?...When the union gives it to us!

I actually voted against it, but I'm just on the Boo-hoo town town council...and democracy being what it is and all, I lost.

You guys have all the fun here.

Tegulator, you a marxist? (sorry, I've only skimmed a few posts)

Damn, that's not right!
Puppies should be loved. They are delicious!

that Nicar guy kicks his puppy-dog....

I'm glad you foresaw it and had the insight to give such an accurate comparison!

Whatever I can do to brighten your day, Prof.

still no free gubment cheese for X.....

Pretty sure he was talking about the "Fast & Furious" gunrunning operation this administration has taken worldwide!...you want a MAC10?...sorry...we no a sella those this week...wea only gots a M16's! HEY! You takes what we sella ya!

The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property.
Karl Marx

Are you now ready to join a kubbitz???

Seriously, you have a lot of sympathy for his "project" ?

20 million dead, conservatively in Russia by the hand of Lenin and Stalin
40 million dead, conservatively in China by the hand of "chairman" Mao

Need I go on to list all of the failed attempts to remove individual responsibilities from the caring of our own, and our brothers well being. Once you take the desire to care for one another and pass that responsibility to someone else more "enlightened" to take care of the needs of the people then you remove that bond between mankind in general. The United States of America is the most giving country in the world. We as a country give to more charitable organizations and to each other than any other country... why?? because we know that it is our responsibility to do so. God, yes I said it, God has given us inalienable rights that no man can take away. Mr. Marx, and his ilk, first remove God from the equation which then gives the "enlightened" ones the ability to determine what is necessary for each and every one for our own good. Once God is removed then it becomes easy to defer our individual responsibility to each other as human beings to look out for our own well being. Having compassion for your fellow man is not relying on someone else to do it. It's having the love in your own heart to look out for your brother. Once you take God out and remove the individual from any responsibility to his fellow man it then becomes easy to view him as inanimate, with less feeling of what does or does not happen to them. No longer caring for each other but for ones own well being. It then doesn't matter that your neighbor is taken out and shot. There is no longer that bond that binds us as human beings. That is the only way that you can attribute the calamitous numbers of deaths that have befallen those that live by the belief and the release of not having to answer to a greater one than us.

Your sympathy is miss placed.

You've obviously read Marx.

I do feel way more safer already.

They had extra people. Think of it as a "reduction in force" Those countries are doing fine now.