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No More Ahmadinejad in Iran!
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HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 11:54 AM EST
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Elections today to replace him.....so far the anti-Israeli candidate is in the lead.

(You're welcome, Frank!)
teedubbya Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 11:57 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Elections today to replace him.....so far the anti-Israeli candidate is in the lead.

(You're welcome, Frank!)


If we no longer have to say his name how will we clear out throats?
bloody spaniard Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 12:57 PM EST
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I'm going to miss that charismatic, smelly lil' greaseball.Sad
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 12:59 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I'm going to miss that charismatic, smelly lil' greaseball.Sad


Drafter got banned?
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 1:02 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter got banned?


Drafter? pffffft (no way)
Drafter's more liked than the indians on F Troop.
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 2:00 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If we no longer have to say his name how will we clear out throats?



You'll just have to Netanyahoo!
bloody spaniard Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 2:17 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You'll just have to Netanyahoo!



Why you clever little jew baiter you.Sneaky
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 2:18 PM EST
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can't find any election results... they must keep it a secret or somethin.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 2:20 PM EST
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Prolly still counting bagfulls of purple fingers.Think
frankj1 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 8:03 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Elections today to replace him.....so far the anti-Israeli candidate is in the lead.

(You're welcome, Frank!)

wait. did you make this happen for me?
I'm not worthy.

I'm surprised you didn't blame Israel.

Let me guess who you're voting for...
HockeyDad Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 11:03 PM EST
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Why blame Israel for elections in Iran? Akmanajad is heading out. Of office and there has not been war. For once be happy people aren't dying due to politicians sabre rattling.
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2013, 11:40 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Why blame Israel for elections in Iran? Akmanajad is heading out. Of office and there has not been war. For once be happy people aren't dying due to politicians sabre rattling.

common ground. I love it when people live.
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 12:11 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Why you clever little jew baiter you.Sneaky

really?
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 7:47 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
common ground. I love it when people live.



The down side to all this is we know have to come up with all new rhetoric to get the war started and spend billions of US dollars and get a bunch of US servicemen killed.

We're watching the whole "Akmenajihad is the hidden Imam who is going to nuke Israel" narrative go away. I mean really.....the hidden Imam getting term-limited out of office! Now we gotta have the US and Israeli military industrial complexes teach us the name of some new camel jockey that we need to kill at all costs.
HockeyDad Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 7:50 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
common ground. I love it when people live.



I can think of around 4 million people you would rather they lived someplace else....at gunpoint in a forced march if need be!
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 8:29 AM EST
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Problem: A moderate reformist is winning easily!




(Reuters) - Moderate cleric Hassan Rohani took a solid lead over conservative rivals on Saturday in preliminary vote counting in Iran's presidential election in what could be the makings of a surprise victory over favored hardliners.

The outcome is unlikely to transform relations between Iran and the outside world, the Islamic Republic's disputed policy on developing nuclear power or its support of Syria's president in the civil war there - all sensitive security matters that are the domain of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

But the president does wield important influence in decision-making in the sprawling Shi'ite Muslim nation and major OPEC state of 75 million and could bring a change from the confrontational style of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who was constitutionally barred from seeking a third consecutive term.

Rohani's wide early margin revealed a major reservoir of pro-reform sentiment whereby many voters seized a chance to repudiate the dominant hardline elite over Iran's economic woes, international isolation and crackdowns on personal freedoms despite restrictions on candidate choice and campaigning.

If he wins, Rohani, a moderate who is a former chief nuclear negotiator known for his conciliatory approach, has signaled he will promote a foreign policy based on "constructive interaction with the world" and enact a "civil rights charter" at home.
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 8:40 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
The down side to all this is we know have to come up with all new rhetoric to get the war started and spend billions of US dollars and get a bunch of US servicemen killed.

We're watching the whole "Akmenajihad is the hidden Imam who is going to nuke Israel" narrative go away. I mean really.....the hidden Imam getting term-limited out of office! Now we gotta have the US and Israeli military industrial complexes teach us the name of some new camel jockey that we need to kill at all costs.

because, as we all know, you don't believe that anyone from Iran ever said they want to wipe Israel off of the face of the Earth.
Israel started that rumor and tells the US what to do.

Blame Israel.
Repetetive, tedious, and repetetive
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 8:42 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I can think of around 4 million people you would rather they lived someplace else....at gunpoint in a forced march if need be!

you're making Bloody look correct.
Israel, the neo nazis?
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 8:47 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
The down side to all this is we know have to come up with all new rhetoric to get the war started and spend billions of US dollars and get a bunch of US servicemen killed.

We're watching the whole "Akmenajihad is the hidden Imam who is going to nuke Israel" narrative go away. I mean really.....the hidden Imam getting term-limited out of office! Now we gotta have the US and Israeli military industrial complexes teach us the name of some new camel jockey that we need to kill at all costs.

cleverly trying to plant in the readers' minds two major lies, I see.

Imadinnerjacket is not a cleric, and even you, his staunchest policy supporter in the free world, don't believe he represents the results of a free election with "term limits", so why foist that garbage on us.

Man, talk about tourist bureau/marketing propaganda.
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 8:55 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Problem: A moderate reformist is winning easily!




(Reuters) - Moderate cleric Hassan Rohani took a solid lead over conservative rivals on Saturday in preliminary vote counting in Iran's presidential election in what could be the makings of a surprise victory over favored hardliners.

The outcome is unlikely to transform relations between Iran and the outside world, the Islamic Republic's disputed policy on developing nuclear power or its support of Syria's president in the civil war there - all sensitive security matters that are the domain of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

But the president does wield important influence in decision-making in the sprawling Shi'ite Muslim nation and major OPEC state of 75 million and could bring a change from the confrontational style of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who was constitutionally barred from seeking a third consecutive term.

Rohani's wide early margin revealed a major reservoir of pro-reform sentiment whereby many voters seized a chance to repudiate the dominant hardline elite over Iran's economic woes, international isolation and crackdowns on personal freedoms despite restrictions on candidate choice and campaigning.

If he wins, Rohani, a moderate who is a former chief nuclear negotiator known for his conciliatory approach, has signaled he will promote a foreign policy based on "constructive interaction with the world" and enact a "civil rights charter" at home.

never been there, probably wouldn't be allowed into that great friend of ours, I sense you may have been there a few times, so am I correct when I say I believe that the populace of Iran is actually quite different those of than Arab countries'? And not just because of the fact that they are not Arabs.
What I hear (not from Drafter) is that there is a desire for things Western culture values among the citizenry. The majority is being held back from enjoying a lifestyle like ours, like Israel's! They wear Levis for heaven's sake.

Seriously, I know you may have been there on biz, any truth to the above?
HockeyDad Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 1:30 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
because, as we all know, you don't believe that anyone from Iran ever said they want to wipe Israel off of the face of the Earth.
Israel started that rumor and tells the US what to do.



You're making crap up again about what we all know.
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 1:33 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
cleverly trying to plant in the readers' minds two major lies, I see.

Imadinnerjacket is not a cleric, and even you, his staunchest policy supporter in the free world, don't believe he represents the results of a free election with "term limits", so why foist that garbage on us.

Man, talk about tourist bureau/marketing propaganda.



But he is out on term limits. It is happening right in front of your eyes and yet you try to deny it and portray me as his staunchest policy supporter!

Are you that distraught about your chances for war diminishing? All those other peoples son & daughters not going to war. Poor you.
HockeyDad Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 1:34 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
never been there, probably wouldn't be allowed into that great friend of ours, I sense you may have been there a few times, so am I correct when I say I believe that the populace of Iran is actually quite different those of than Arab countries'? And not just because of the fact that they are not Arabs.
What I hear (not from Drafter) is that there is a desire for things Western culture values among the citizenry. The majority is being held back from enjoying a lifestyle like ours, like Israel's! They wear Levis for heaven's sake.

Seriously, I know you may have been there on biz, any truth to the above?



I have never been to Iran. Boom...you're wrong again.
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 4:01 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I have never been to Iran. Boom...you're wrong again.

I said you may have been there, thought you had spoken of being in that part of the world for business.

Do you know anything about the Iranian general population that most of us would not having never been anywhere near there? Are they more open (not the radical muslims) to our lifestyle, as I have heard? And if true, might it be because they are not Arabs?

This is not a set up, just thought you might know more than most folks. And I'm wondering if they ever mounted an attempt to topple their harsh government, might the results be more favorable to us than what Arab Spring will likely yield?
HockeyDad Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Jun 15 2013, 5:09 PM EST
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Many Iranians fall over themselves trying to westernize. When Akmenajihad got re-elected a couple of years ago, there was major rioting in the streets. The uprising was crushed while Obama played golf.

A lot of Iranians died in the 80s fighting Iraq. No wars since. The USA can't say that.
bloody spaniard Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2013, 9:26 AM EST
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There were 6 (STATE SANCTIONED- similar to our country?) turbaned, Iranian lunatics running for President. One of the least religiously fanatic- the "moderate" Rohani- won and will implement more lenient religious guidelines in order to win favor with the West. Among these, women will be allowed brighter burkha colors and to speak when spoken to in public places PLUS the right hand is permissible for wiping of ass when the left is busy jerking off the guy in the next stall.
frankj1 Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2013, 10:31 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Many Iranians fall over themselves trying to westernize. When Akmenajihad got re-elected a couple of years ago, there was major rioting in the streets. The uprising was crushed while Obama played golf.

A lot of Iranians died in the 80s fighting Iraq. No wars since. The USA can't say that.

well, they may be the only Islamic country with a significant pro-west population. I don't find that, a problem, do you?

If Obama came off the course at the turn and got involved, he'd have been skewered here for that too. No win situation it seems.

In the interest of full disclosure, we armed both Iran and Iraq, much of it in an end run around congress under Prez RR.

Despite a couple of years of reading about the drum beats re Iran, I still am not fully aligned with the school of thought that war with them (or N Korea for that matter) is unavoidable. This election is a tiny step in the right direction. But the ruling council looms large above the winner of this election.

take note, this the first post by the new and improved Frankj1!
bloody spaniard Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2013, 10:57 AM EST
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Applause In the interest of cbid ecuminism, I will applaud what you said, Francisco.

Two minor points, the Eurasian-islamo Turkey (member of NATO) is pushing for membership in the EU and its people may possibly be more pro-western (with the exception of their hatred for Greece) than the Iranians. AND Reagan was primarily a Saddam (Iraq) man. He understood the importance of keeping one's enemies at each other's throats. The Pavlavi (Iranian) dynasty was militarily aided by his (and Carter's) predecessors.
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#29 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2013, 12:00 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Applause In the interest of cbid ecuminism, I will applaud what you said, Francisco.

Two minor points, the Eurasian-islamo Turkey (member of NATO) is pushing for membership in the EU and its people may possibly be more pro-western (with the exception of their hatred for Greece) than the Iranians. AND Reagan was primarily a Saddam (Iraq) man. He understood the importance of keeping one's enemies at each other's throats. The Pavlavi (Iranian) dynasty was militarily aided by his (and Carter's) predecessors.

you'll get no argument on any of the above from New & Improved (must be an oxymoron, no?) simply because it is accurate.
Might I add an historic desire to solve the "Armenian Problem" lurks in their past
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