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Subject: AGE 76
DrafterX Offline
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fog
Subject: AGE 76

Of course it doesn't apply to Illegals, Muslims or congressmen.

So we seniors are now targeted for death...
AGE 76

PLEASE PASS THIS OUTRAGE TO EVERY ONE ON YOUR LIST!!! THIS should be read by everyone; especially important to those over 75... If you are younger, then it applies to your parents...
Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor it is treated as outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happens in 2013 & 2014!

Age 76
Today, I went to the Doctor for my monthly B12 shot that I have been getting for a number of years. The nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled and ready to go then looked at the computer and got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it.
She said that Medicare had turned it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every thing they could but Medicare is beginning to turn many things down for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in. She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!!

Please for the sake of many good peopleā€¦ be informed please.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...

At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment.
* see page 272

What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number - THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200.
Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59
JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling...)
** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas

All of the above should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.


Film at 11.... Not talking Not talking
teedubbya Offline
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snopes
DrafterX Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
snopes



no.. I got it e-mail... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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seriously drafter... do you even believe the crap you post anymore?

There are legitimate problems with our government, hell, there are legitimate problems with obamacare. But when you post crap like this it undermines anyone who has an issue with it.
Bentakemoto Offline
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Lol snopes says "False"

But somebody could be paying them to say that...
DrafterX Offline
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Bentakemoto wrote:
Lol snopes says "False"

But somebody could be paying them to say that...



they do that.... you can't trust Snopes... Not talking Not talking
teedubbya Offline
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lets take up a collection to get snopes to change it to true
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted:
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do they smoke cigars..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
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Bentakemoto wrote:
Lol snopes says "False"



Seriously? you bothered to even check?
DrafterX Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Seriously? you bothered to even check?



should he have just taken your word for it..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
should he have just taken your word for it..?? Huh


No, its obvious from the post that its false.
No need to check. The entire set-up is false. Its a fairytale someone made up to try to convince idiots that there's a shred of truth. Then it goes and trots out the same list of crap that was circulated in other false email chains.

Hell, I bet YOU even posted this crap before.
DrafterX Offline
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nope...... I had heard about stuff like this but this was the first proof I saw... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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My error.
This list of false claims was posted TWICE before in cbid.

First by Cacman :
http://www.cigarbid.com/...yment-rate-rises-to-9-2

Then by Northsidepk:
http://www.cigarbid.com/...bamaCare-Bill-Specifics

If you ever bothered to pay attention to the crap you post (and please, do NOT refer to a spam email chain as "proof" of anything, other than the intelligence of the poster) you would have realized that the original spam chain isn't even referring to the actual bill which passed (and is now called Obamacare).

Hell... vitamin B12 isn't even really given in the shot form any longer. oral dosage has improved enough that it isn't necessary. And if you've been to a hospital any time in the past 20 years you would realize that "billing" and "nursing" are two completely separate functions. a nurse NEVER asks anyone "how are you going to pay for this"... the amount of suspension of disbelief required to even get to the list is ridiculous.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Victor you're such a wet blanket.


DrafterX Offline
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Think
so, your saying we really don't need to worry until we're 77 now..?? Huh
ZRX1200 Offline
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Victor doesn't believe in God, hates children and likes to scrum.

Never listen to him.
DrafterX Offline
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he has a soft spot for hungry ghetto kids tho..... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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You sure it's soft?
DrafterX Offline
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Scared

that freak..!! Mad
ZRX1200 Offline
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He's a giver pitching a tent for them like that.

Now they have somewhere to lay their heads @night.
Burner02 Offline
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Fug Nancy and Harry!

Just saying.
Ilovetosmoke68 Offline
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Ive gone to the death preparation classes and I was told to drink more because it will eventually leave me pickled and everyone knows that pickling makes things last longer. I was also told to smoke more because smoke is used to cure some perishable items for long term storage.....

Advice taken!
Hehe.
fiddler898 Offline
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"She was brushing back tears..." at Obama care... which hasn't gone into effect yet... maybe she was auditioning for a reality TV show.. which doesn't have anything to do with reality... like this post...
Burner02 Offline
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I forgot, O'Blamer Care is great!
victor809 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Victor doesn't believe in God, hates children and likes to scrum.

Never listen to him.


In fairness.. those are all true statements.
Don't believe in god, I think children are sticky things that should not be near me, and like anyone with a pair of testicles I do love the violence inherent driving a couple fat guys into each other while headbutting a hooker.

What can I say, you know me too well Z.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Cool

Just don't say I don't listen.....
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:

...I ... like anyone with a pair of testicles ...I do love ... a couple fat guys



Scared
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh
victor809 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Scared


Are you scared because you're a fat guy?
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
In fairness.. those are all true statements.
Don't believe in god . . . .


Ah, but do your respect those who do?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Victor has healthy skepticism for respect.

tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Are you scared because you're a fat guy?


Hey!
You take that back.
I'm not scared...
cacman Offline
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victor809 wrote:
My error.
This list of false claims was posted TWICE before in cbid.

First by Cacman :
http://www.cigarbid.com/...yment-rate-rises-to-9-2

Then by Northsidepk:
http://www.cigarbid.com/...bamaCare-Bill-Specifics

If you ever bothered to pay attention to the crap you post (and please, do NOT refer to a spam email chain as "proof" of anything, other than the intelligence of the poster) you would have realized that the original spam chain isn't even referring to the actual bill which passed (and is now called Obamacare).

Hell... vitamin B12 isn't even really given in the shot form any longer. oral dosage has improved enough that it isn't necessary. And if you've been to a hospital any time in the past 20 years you would realize that "billing" and "nursing" are two completely separate functions. a nurse NEVER asks anyone "how are you going to pay for this"... the amount of suspension of disbelief required to even get to the list is ridiculous.

My wife is a nurse working at a public care facility. She sees free healthcare given away to illegals every day, all day, while others struggle to get the Meds they need. As a nurse she must be clear on what the patient is paying for and what health insurance is covering BEFORE any treatment is given. She may not type the Invoice but she must be aware prior to any pill or shot being given. A patient has been receiving the same anti-depression drugs for 5+ yrs. Obamacare now does not cover that specific med requiring the patient to switch medications. If you know ANYTHING about anti-depressants changing meds can be very dangerous.

And I receive a B2 shot every month - not a pill. I can't take pills due to an allergy to a compound used to make a variety of medications.

So much for Victor's logic. Phffft again!!!!
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
My wife is a nurse working at a public care facility. She sees free healthcare given away to illegals every day, all day, while others struggle to get the Meds they need. As a nurse she must be clear on what the patient is paying for and what health insurance is covering BEFORE any treatment is given. She may not type the Invoice but she must be aware prior to any pill or shot being given. A patient has been receiving the same anti-depression drugs for 5+ yrs. Obamacare now does not cover that specific med requiring the patient to switch medications. If you know ANYTHING about anti-depressants changing meds can be very dangerous.

And I receive a B2 shot every month - not a pill. I can't take pills due to an allergy to a compound used to make a variety of medications.

So much for Victor's logic. Phffft again!!!!



Yeah... Aware.

I've been to urgent care, clinics, orthopedic surgeons, etc etc etc (hey, things break) and this is what I've experienced first hand:
1 - Urgent Care - Where possible, they send the patients through billing BEFORE they are taken in to see the doctor. They have desks set up where you discuss with the admin how you are paying for your upcoming treatment.
2 - Clinics - They took my insurance card ahead of time at admittance and then billing was squared away (copay etc) at the end of treatment. All by the admins. neither nurse nor doctor discussed anything
3 - Orthopedic surgeons - Admin collected insurance and squared away later.

And so on and so on.
Hell, they have NO clue what is even covered when they treat me. They bill my insurance company, my insurance company then tells me what they expect to cover of that and THEN the various clinics/hospitals send me a bill for the remainder.

Given that the billing administrators at these places don't know what parts of my treatment are going to be covered by insurance, what makes you think a nurse, who while I'm certain is very competent at her job is not actually directly involved in the billing would be offering advice?

Oh, and you do realize vitamin B2 and vitamin B12 are VERY different compounds, right? Strangely enough, B2 is extraordinarily stable, and I would guess shots are very rare. B12 is more likely to be delivered by shot, but still rare these days (likely only for allergy or extraordinary high dose reasons).

As for switching anti-depressants... can you state specifically which one is no longer covered by Obamacare? Can you tell me which one they need to switch to? If not, then it's kind of a moot point, since you aren't giving me enough information to actually have a discussion.

What I find hilarious is I don't like obamacare. I'm forced to defend aspects of it because the crap people post here is SO stupid, and so incorrect. There are valid reasons to dislike obamacare. Fake email chains about death panels and whatnot is not valid.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Palin was right and I expect an apology Victor.
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