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Nancy Pelosi Booed, Heckled Over Edward Snowden, NSA Comments At Netroots Nation 2013
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dpnewell Offline
#51 Posted: Mon, Jun 24 2013, 8:02 PM EST
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But, but, can't we just print more?





Sarcasm
teedubbya Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 9:38 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:

Don't worry about it now. We could vote for "Mr./Mrs. Perfect" now and it would still be too late IMHO. We're too far down that road...
Just work hard, love family, & keep the faith.



Your generation would have just quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Let's hope the next generation isn't as crotchety or condecending towards future generations. There there little one come back later when you know as much as me....which will be never.
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#53 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 9:51 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Your generation would have just quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Let's hope the next generation isn't as crotchety or condecending towards future generations. There there little one come back later when you know as much as me....which will be never.



Well unless the new weapons have a Playstation or XBox controller we're all fooked!
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 10:49 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Well unless the new weapons have a Playstation or XBox controller we're all fooked!


like drones?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 10:52 AM EST
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Drones are dirty and boring too.
bloody spaniard Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 11:51 AM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Exactly right. This nation is so far in debt, there's no recovery possible without taking drastic steps. And neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are willing to do anything but make speeches blaming one another, previous administrations, the wealthy, the poor, and the boogey man.

Look at the financial hole we are in so far. Total US unfunded liabilities are $123,939,000,000,000 and change.

http://www.usadebtclock.com/

Then, like a hand grenade with the pin pulled, there's the complex and totally unregulated derivatives market floating around the world's financial markets. There's something like $12 quadrillion funny money dollars in notational value there, with $12 trillion dollars in cash value waiting to go up in smoke.

http://americablog.com/2013/03/the-worldwide-derivatives-market-could-be-over-1-2-quadrillion-in-notional-value.html

In addition to work hard, love family, and keep the faith...you might want to also keep your powder dry.



Thought this was so beautifully stated by Dad that it needed repeating.

See, most Government workers are insulated from reality due to inflated wages and bennies. They think its just a bump in the road that barely affects them.
That's what the huge (33%+), entitled bureaucratic class in Greece thought until their wages/pensions were cut by half and riffs began!Boo hoo!
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 11:53 AM EST
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you sure are one myopic summich Razz

I guess I would be too given your circumstance.


But you are correct. Once someone accepts a job in the government its as if their decades of working in the private sector disappear.... poof.... government contractors on the otherhand.... that's another issue.
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#58 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 11:56 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Thought this was so beautifully stated by Dad that it needed repeating.

See, most Government workers are insulated from reality due to inflated wages and bennies. They think its just a bump in the road that barely affects them.
That's what the huge (33%+), entitled bureaucratic class in Greece thought until their wages/pensions were cut by
half and riffs began!Boo hoo!


Ima charge him a royalty fee for this!

(Afterall, wealth in the USA is now created by debt, not industrial production.)
bloody spaniard Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:20 PM EST
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^ Sad

You know, TW, I average at least half a dozen calls from industry service providers & suppliers every day. Each one is usually sadder than the next. The canary has died. Call me Jack Elam all you want but when the chain of production from manufacturing to distribution is affected, it will eventually affect ALL- even the privileged.

We pay your salary. Will you accept IOU's for a hamburger next Tuesday?
HockeyDad Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:33 PM EST
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"Government" as the largest sector in the economy is only viewed as sustainable by those in the government and only as long as the debt caused by it can be funded.
teedubbya Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:37 PM EST
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No one is arguing the dire economy Blood. Try talking to a few critical access hospitals in the rural areas of the country on a consistent basis, or contractors whose budgets have been cut in half and are trying to lay off as few people as possible while trying to maintain a quality service or product. My guess is you have first hand experience with some of that and I feel for you. There is no insulation here and your assumptions are flawed (due to your blindness)

I bust my ass in my job and am just as productive as I was when doing similar things in the private sector. Funny, my employer changed but I never noticed I am no longer working and don't have a job. I was tricked into the welfare apparantly. Your's is an effed up frustrating mentality but it is shared by many many people (which must make it accurate).

I am grateful I have a job and a good one at that. I worked hard to get the educaiton (leavng it mispelt due to the irony) and experience to get it. I could have (and was doing so) traveled a much riskier path and made my decisions. I have peers that chose that other path. They never complained when they were making twice what I was (or more) during the boom, but do seem to complain during the busts when they are makeing less or zero.

A job is a job. If there is a need for the product or service great. If there is not, then it sould be eliminated. Regardless of who the employer is. That is my biggest complaint about government. Often there is no need (either to begin with or over time) and those jobs shouldn't exist. That includes mine. To be honest if I didn't find value or beleive in what I am doing I would have never gone this route (I was recruited) or I would get out. I planned on staying 2 years to round out my resume but it turned out I like it and am making a difference. I can literraly see the difference I am making.

But this incessant "we pay your salary", "you are like the greeks", "you have no clue because you are insulated", "overpaid" etc. is pretty narrow minded, at times insulting, and juvenile in many ways. All comming from someone trying to act as if they have it all figured out.
teedubbya Offline
#62 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:38 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
"Government" as the largest sector in the economy is only viewed as sustainable by those in the government and only as long as the debt caused by it can be funded.


It's not sustainable and tasks and their associated jobs need to go. I know very few people in "The government" that don't believe that. Do you know people in the government that do?
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#63 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:55 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's not sustainable and tasks and their associated jobs need to go. I know very few people in "The government" that don't believe that. Do you know people in the government that do?


Absolutely. When pressed for unneeded areas in government, they always cite somebody else because what they do makes a difference.
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#64 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 12:59 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Absolutely. When pressed for unneeded areas in government, they always cite somebody else because what they do makes a difference.


I see. Good to know.
HockeyDad Offline
#65 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:13 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I could have (and was doing so) traveled a much riskier path and made my decisions.



So are you saying you chose a safer path of having others make the decisions?!
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#66 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I see. Good to know.


Have you met government employees that lobbied for their job to be eliminated?
teedubbya Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:16 PM EST
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Yes. In fairness the job was not eliminated but the tasks were. The team of folks were moved into an area of need which caused additional issues because the skill sets did not match up. Ideally they should have been laid off or forced to reapply based on background.
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#68 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:18 PM EST
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It was the lead of the team that identified lack of need. Most folks I know want to work not sit around doing nothing.
teedubbya Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:20 PM EST
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But it's not lost on me that self preservation is human nature regardless of employer.
teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:28 PM EST
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I've spent more time in the private sector and am trying to think of any examples I have seen of private sector folks lobbying to eliminate their jobs. The difference IS the employer. Private corps are more inclined to cut unneeded positions which as I said is a flaw in the government rather than the employee
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#71 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:29 PM EST
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who are you talking to..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:29 PM EST
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You
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:32 PM EST
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oh..... Unsure
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:34 PM EST
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Damn phone. Can't edit well so multi posts happen

Glad you are listening though
DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:34 PM EST
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I found a way to cut about 5 to 6 months work off the little girl in our office today and now they're mad at me... I didn't realize they were trying to keep her busy just to be busy... d'oh!
bloody spaniard Offline
#76 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:52 PM EST
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Most of the Government force should be riffed & helped to find work in the private sector (good luck with that). We can no longer afford a huge welfare state that shuffles paper in quadruplicate- one agency that I know has departments whose sole purpose is to audit one another.

Sorry, TW, but you're fired. Crying We've found an illegal who can replace you and your staff for fewer chavos ($$$).
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 1:55 PM EST
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It's unfortunate you feel that way blood. At least you are honest.
bloody spaniard Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's unfortunate you feel that way blood. At least you are honest.


I don't want to see you or yours hurt, Tim. You're a capable man but you're still fired though.
HOWEVER, I WILL buy some of your home-made sausage flavored ales on consignment, my friend. In fact, put me down for auto shipment.

In the meantime, unemployment comp is not all that bad despite sequestration cuts. My unemployed friends are living like kings!Sarcasm
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#79 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:28 PM EST
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...and don't get me started on double dippers who tap into their Government retirement sometimes DECADES before we can qualify for ours.
In the meantime, they compete for & snap up our primary jobs as their second incomes while they sop up the taxpayer gravy.


But don't feel sorry for us, TW. Some of us are expanding into the healthcare, pawnshop, and repossession industries.
For me it's healthcare. I've already bought straitjackets and drool bibs for our clients. Even got a place reserved for you.ThumpUp
teedubbya Offline
#80 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:33 PM EST
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I'll just keep working boss. I cant retire until well into my 60s, maybe 70s. Hope I make it. I'm sorry you are so bitter and have such a gloomy view of the future.
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#81 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:36 PM EST
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poor Eeyore..... Sad
teedubbya Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:39 PM EST
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I was thinking Droopy
bloody spaniard Offline
#83 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:40 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'll just keep working boss. I cant retire until well into my 60s, maybe 70s. Hope I make it. I'm sorry you are so bitter and have such a gloomy view of the future.



Bitterness has little to do with what's happened to the working man in this country the past decade.

Oh, make no mistake. It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning. ~~~ Doc Holliday
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#84 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:42 PM EST
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ya... they're both pretty miserable.... maybe they can get one of them disablity checks..... Mellow
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#85 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:53 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
ya... they're both pretty miserable.... maybe they can get one of them disablity checks..... Mellow




Sounds as though you may have already looked into it. Get rejected? Back injuries are hard to prove you know.Anxious
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:55 PM EST
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may as well not even try. when did you get so old and crotchety?

It's all over but the shouting I've come to take what's mine. ~~~ Diamond Dave
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 2:59 PM EST
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I blame the end on Elvis. It was pretty predictable given all that hi shakin and gyratin'
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#88 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:00 PM EST
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I prolly could be collecting SS diability if I tried but as long as I can walk up da stairs I'll be here..... unless I win the lottery or somethin... Mellow

Lucky I'm sane after all I've been through
(Everybody sing) I'm cool (He's cool)... Cool
Beagles...
bloody spaniard Offline
#89 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:02 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
may as well not even try.

It's all over but the shouting I've come to take what's mine. ~~~ I.R.S.



Applause (ya lazy bastid)
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#90 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:03 PM EST
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This is the end, my only friend the end. ~~~ Jim
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#91 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:04 PM EST
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I bet Bloody hates his balls.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#92 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:04 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Applause (ya lazy bastid)


it's everyone else's fault. I'm the only one that works. ~~~ Blood
teedubbya Offline
#93 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:06 PM EST
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""A-wop-bom-a-loo-mop-a-lomp-bom-bom!!Tutti Frutti, good booty". ~~~ The Big O
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#94 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
it's everyone else's fault. I'm the only one that works. ~~~ Blood


Now look who's bitter.Glare

LOL! Have a goonite, bro.
teedubbya Offline
#95 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:09 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Now look who's bitter.Glare

LOL! Have a goonite, bro.


You too blood.
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#96 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:09 PM EST
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"Anyone not under the Obama Cone of Protection has only themselves to blame however in the era of lack of personal responsibility, it is George W Bush's fault." ~ Le HockeyDad
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#97 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:20 PM EST
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Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant..... Think




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#98 Posted: Tue, Jun 25 2013, 3:29 PM EST
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""Don't let your meat loaf". ~~~ Jack Klugman
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