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Baton Rouge Blacks Rethinking ‘White Privilege’ As Wealthy White Suburb Threatens To Split From Citywpaw2

By Brian Anderson
October 20, 2014
“White privilege” is that thing that blacks and white liberals claim allows white people to get educated, gain employment and stay out of jail. It is used an excuse for the underachievement of blacks and vilified by those on the left. However, blacks in Louisiana are rethinking their hatred of “white privilege” as a wealthy white suburb of Baton Rouge is threatening to secede, forming its own city and taking a huge chunk of the tax base with it.

The BBC reports:

More than 18,000 residents in the suburbs south of Baton Rouge, the state capital of Louisiana, have signed a petition calling for the creation of a new city called St George.
The community is currently part of East Baton Rouge Parish, which also includes the city of Baton Rouge itself.

The reason for this split is simple: residents who work hard are sick of their tax dollars going to prop up a sh*ithole city and they would rather see their money go to improving their own community:

The campaigners claim they simply want to improve the quality of local schools and to ensure that taxpayers – who currently contribute roughly two thirds of funds to the parish – have more control over the money they contribute to fund services.

But this move would be devastating to the mostly black city of Baton Rouge:


Opponents insist that the proposal is also motivated by race and class. They point out that the new city of St George would be 70% white – and that the mainly poor and black community in the rest of Baton Rouge would face crippling cuts to education if it lost the taxpayers who provide most of its revenue.

And because white people want to reap the benefits of their own hard work, it’s racist:

“The St. George breakaway would have some very serious racial consequences for the city of Baton Rouge, issues like segregating the schools. We just don’t think it’d be right for the wealthy, predominately white part of the city to break away from the less privileged, majority black part,” said opposition campaigner Celeste Reynolds.

Parroting the position that white people have an obligation to pay the bills for blacks was East Baton Rouge Parish School Board member Domoine Rutledge who said, “You cannot simply abandon the poor because you may have the power and the muscle to do it.”

Proponents of the split deny any charges of racism, explaining they want control over their resources to build a stronger community:

“You know it’s unfortunate that the opponents try to pull the race card,” responded St. George spokesman Lionel Rainey III. “Race unequivocally has nothing to do with this. Public schools are bad here. We want to take control of our public schools. It’s a real problem and race is the last thing that’s on anybody’s mind.”

“We’re trying to create a city so we’d have our own mayor, and have our own city council and the tax dollars would stay here and we could create a school system here.”

What this boils down to is: White people are evil and racist except when they are picking up the tab, in which case they are all right. That “white privilege” that has been keeping the black community down suddenly looks pretty good because it funds a majority of the services in the parish.
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What kind of an article uses the term **** hole?
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A good one, don't be a **** hole.
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lol.

It looks like bbc. But I find it hard to believe. Is it a blog?
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Downtrend.com
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Way more to the story and much less sinister.
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This has been done successfully once in Atlanta & tried about 3-4 or more times. Of course, the cries of racism started to chant.
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Everyone forgets all about Detroit.
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What about Detroit ?

They don't feel the need to pay their water bills ?
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jetblasted wrote:
What about Detroit ?

They don't feel the need to pay their water bills ?


Atlanta is a cheap imitation of Detroit.

What happened there since the late 50's...there's a term for it. White flight.

Atlanta, just like Detroit is a rotten inner city surrounded by enclaves where delusional people think they're safe.

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Baton Rouge is a chit hole. Secede!
gryphonms Offline
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Why does common sense have to be called racism? It is not. Wanting better public services based on taxes paid makes sense.
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It seems the main reason is to improve schools but I'm not too sure schools are at the city level. That seems more like a county function and the county will still bus in inner city kids to this nice upscale area.
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Whitey Sucks !


wheel,
Abrignac Online
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HockeyDad wrote:
It seems the main reason is to improve schools but I'm not too sure schools are at the city level. That seems more like a county function and the county will still bus in inner city kids to this nice upscale area.



It's actually more than just schools. The proponents of this contend that a disproportionate amount of tax dollars are being spent in areas outside where those dollars are being collected.
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Isn't that really what taxes are in most cases? Until fairly recently (oil) places like North Dakota reaped that benefit year in year out.
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This argument is why we have the senate and house structured so differently. It's gerrymandering on some level.
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I don't want to be annexed by Kansas City for the very same reason.
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So 13 seconds from a win is the same as a win.
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Looks like someone forgot to take their meds this AM.
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A win is a win.
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Kill.. kill.. kill da white man..
Kill him until he is dead...
Kill da white man....

Thank you.... Mellow
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Finding a guy named Lionel Rainey III to be spokesman of the white separatist alliance was genius.
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This is a tough one and points out a common phenomena. Crime, poverty and drugs is what drags a community down. You build schools so kids can better their lives and they play hookey and quit before graduation. You try to fight crime and the same people who are being victimized by crime and drugs, complain about police brutality. The answer? I don't have one but, if you complain about "White Privilege," don't complain when they leave or set up their own community. Hell, if I was talked about the way the so-called Black Leaders talk about White people in general, and the police in particular, I would move. Hey, I did.
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John Galt was white.
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I don't particularly care if one part of a city decides to secede because it doesn't want to spend their tax money on the poor blacks.

But isn't that essentially the definition of "white privilege"? To be able to work within the system to ensure that your tax money is most efficiently spent on stuff you need.

The article essentially proves the existence of white privilege while pretending it's a myth created by blacks and liberals.
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I would comment on that, but with my white privilege firmly in place why bother?
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gryphonms wrote:
I would comment on that, but with my white privilege firmly in place why bother?


I've been trying to exercise some white privilege to get some of the local shelters and soup kitchens shut down near me. Doesn't seem to work unfortunately... I think because some of the damn poor here are white and their privilege is counteracting my privilege.... or something.

Whatever you do, don't cross the privilege streams.
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victor809 wrote:
I don't particularly care if one part of a city decides to secede because it doesn't want to spend their tax money on the poor blacks.

But isn't that essentially the definition of "white privilege"? To be able to work within the system to ensure that your tax money is most efficiently spent on stuff you need.

The article essentially proves the existence of white privilege while pretending it's a myth created by blacks and liberals.



The article proves that it was written by someone who is clueless about what is really going on.

This has been brewing for quite some time. A few years back, a property tax package was put forth that would raised taxes on anyone who owned a home in the parish valued greater than $75,000. Overall, the package called for about $1.25B in new taxes over a 20-30 year period. A large % of the tax would have gone towards a new beadquarters complex for the Baton Rouge City Police Department. Another large percentage would have paid for tourist development along the Mississippi River.

The problem is as there are 4 incorporated areas in the parish. All of those cities have their own police departments. The citizens of those communities would have been paying property taxes to support the city police of another city in addition to there own cities. Likewise for the people of the St. George area. They already pay taxes for law enforcement from the Sheriff's office and are not served by the Bato Rouge Police City Police. But, city leaders wanted them to subsidize them as well as pay taxes to the Sheriffs office.

As far as the development project on the Mississippi river. Tax dollars generated from that project would have been paid to the city of Baton Rouge. The people in St. George live outside the city limits and as such would not benefit from those taxes collected, yet they would be forced to pay taxes to build it.

Then there is the issue of schools. They feel that money is being collected from there community to build schools outside there area.

Basically their argument is tax dollars are being collected from them and being used elsewhere. Think back a few hundred years ago when $$$ was being collected in the colonies and shipped back to the king.
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If Kansas City annexes me I will pay more taxes for less services. Thus my money will get redistributed. I'm not sure of the color of the folks that will get my coin because all I care about it green. I don't want them to have my green. It's a mone thing. I'm sure they don't care about black white or brown at this point. They care about green.
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Abrignac wrote:
The article proves that it was written by someone who is clueless about what is really going on.

This has been brewing for quite some time. A few years back, a property tax package was put forth that would raised taxes on anyone who owned a home in the parish valued greater than $75,000. Overall, the package called for about $1.25B in new taxes over a 20-30 year period. A large % of the tax would have gone towards a new beadquarters complex for the Baton Rouge City Police Department. Another large percentage would have paid for tourist development along the Mississippi River.

The problem is as there are 4 incorporated areas in the parish. All of those cities have their own police departments. The citizens of those communities would have been paying property taxes to support the city police of another city in addition to there own cities. Likewise for the people of the St. George area. They already pay taxes for law enforcement from the Sheriff's office and are not served by the Bato Rouge Police City Police. But, city leaders wanted them to subsidize them as well as pay taxes to the Sheriffs office.

As far as the development project on the Mississippi river. Tax dollars generated from that project would have been paid to the city of Baton Rouge. The people in St. George live outside the city limits and as such would not benefit from those taxes collected, yet they would be forced to pay taxes to build it.

Then there is the issue of schools. They feel that money is being collected from there community to build schools outside there area.

Basically their argument is tax dollars are being collected from them and being used elsewhere. Think back a few hundred years ago when $$$ was being collected in the colonies and shipped back to the king.


It isn't an uncommon occurrence actually. Or at least didn't used to be. Now that a lot of cities are becoming wealthy again it seems less common...

The author decided he wanted to try to tie it in to "white privilege" ... for some dumb reason. The irony is that he completely described the application of it.
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victor809 wrote:
It isn't an uncommon occurrence actually. Or at least didn't used to be. Now that a lot of cities are becoming wealthy again it seems less common...

The author decided he wanted to try to tie it in to "white privilege" ... for some dumb reason. The irony is that he completely described the application of it.



Yep. Made it sound real good. The problem is the area he described is anything but a wealthy white suburb. The are three very wealthy neighborhoods in the area. One of those neighborhoods was at one time home to Master P and Snoop Dog. The other neighborhood was home to Lil Bootsie. On the other hand, the area is also home to a small contingent of members of the "Bandidos" and two of the largest section 8 developments in the state.

It also used to include the LSU campus, the LaAuberge casino and OLOL complex. The city hasn't annexed any new territory of significance in years. It annexed these sites and many others within the last six months.

For the most part the area is inhabited by working class homeowners though.
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