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Global warming weather events
tailgater Offline
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When it was cold outside, Trump tweeted something like "we could use a little of that global warming right about now".

He gets attacked in the press. Especially locally here in Massachusetts where the liberal lefties reign supreme.


Flash forward to the recent MegaGenesisBombCycloneStormosaurus and Boston Mayor Marty Walsh says at a press conference: "If anyone wants to question global warming, just see where those flood zones are"

This in response to localized flooding and a renewed interest in an $18 Billion (with a B) sea wall.

Will the local press attack Walsh?

Rhetorical.

Because it's OK to use weather events to PROVE global warming, but it's not OK to use weather events to disprove it (even when tongue-in-cheek).



For those who question how the flooding happened, it was due to astronomical forces coinciding with a big storm. Combine the super-moon tides with a nor'easter and this is what you get. It's rare. But it's hardly "proof" of global warming. Unless global warming is affecting the moon.

But once again climate change will be used to scare people into higher taxes.
Follow the money.
Liberal schmucks.




DrafterX Offline
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Get alot of illegal sea creatures trying to get into da city..?? Huh
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I think it's the tongue in cheek part. Most literate people on the planet believe that global warming is a real threat, and that mankind can do something about it.

Trump's behavior was interpreted kinda like being on an airplane and an anti-science guy who doesn't believe gravity exists jokes about opening the exit door.
Mr. Jones Offline
#4 Posted:
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Takes a lot to freeze SALT WATER FILLED WITH HUMAN CRAP...which is exactly what is in Boston's Harbor...

When this thaws? Nathaniel Hall Market area will be filled with TURDS AND USED CHARMIN TISSUE...
TMCTLT Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I think it's the tongue in cheek part. Most liberal people on the planet believe that global warming is a real threat AND that mankind can do something about it.

Trump's behavior was interpreted ( by me ) kinda like being on an airplane and an anti-wwestern guy who doesn't believe Christ exists jokes about opening the exit door.



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delta1 Online
#6 Posted:
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I dunno Mr. Jones...I heard reports of frozen sharks washing ashore...THAT's COLD...
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TMCTLT wrote:
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pretty funnyThumpUp
Kawaksback Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I think it's the tongue in cheek part. Most literate people on the planet believe that global warming is a real threat, and that mankind can do something about it.

Trump's behavior was interpreted kinda like being on an airplane and an anti-science guy who doesn't believe gravity exists jokes about opening the exit door.


Or just some zombie sheep types that frequent a cigar forums site........
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98 percent of literate people agree
opelmanta1900 Offline
#10 Posted:
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when I was a boy, global warming was just called summertime...
Kawaksback Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
when I was a boy, global warming was just called summertime...


No money in it back then...Strange how snowflakes survive in global warming. Human and the real thing.



Phil222 Offline
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Kawaksback wrote:
No money in it back then...Strange how snowflakes survive in global warming. Human and the real thing.


The real money is in denying...just ask Big Energy.
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I can't wait until greenland thaws. Do yall even realise the agricultural viability of a world that knows no frost? It will completely shatter the dem's "no enough land to grow food theory." Hell I might buy fifty thousand acres of deadlands just to pass it down to my progeny.
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Tailgater, it sounds to me that you don't believe in global warming. I find it disappointing that you are so familiar with the weather, tides, moon cycle, etc, But not in global warming. Im not.saying the flood happened directly due to global warming but in some small way has done so indirectly.
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What a crock of ...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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The scientific consensus is clear. Building on two previous studies (Doran and Zimmerman 2009 and Anderegg et al. 2010), a landmark 2013 peer-reviewed study evaluated 10,306 scientists to confirm that over 97 percent climate scientists agree, and over 97 percent of scientific articles find that global warming is real and largely caused by humans.

Liberal Conspiracy?
Kawaksback Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
The scientific consensus is clear. Building on two previous studies (Doran and Zimmerman 2009 and Anderegg et al. 2010), a landmark 2013 peer-reviewed study evaluated 10,306 scientists to confirm that over 97 percent climate scientists agree, and over 97 percent of scientific articles find that global warming is real and largely caused by humans.

Liberal Conspiracy?


Only idiots think consensus equals science...sheesh...
Phil222 Offline
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Climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese! fog

DEY WUNT ER JERBS!
banderl Offline
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Phil222 wrote:
Climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese! fog

DEY WUNT ER JERBS!



The Chinese currency manipulators are cool:
President Xi Jinping “treated me better than anybody’s ever been treated in the history of China,” Mr. Trump said
Ha!
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Marco Polo came back with noodles
Phil222 Offline
#21 Posted:
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I wonder if he was referring to ex-presidents or did he literally mean anybody in the history of China? Haha!
banderl Offline
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Phil222 wrote:
I wonder if he was referring to ex-presidents or did he literally mean anybody in the history of China? Haha!



He said "in the history of China", have to take him at his word. HaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!
Of course, the ignorant troll has no conception of China's history. Not like he ever read a book on the subject.
DrafterX Offline
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Ignorant troll..?? Man you gots issues....Shame on you
banderl Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Marco Polo came back with noodles


Apparently, we sent the Chinese noodles.
banderl Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Ignorant troll..?? Man you gots issues....Shame on you


Wipe the orange off of your lips.
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banderl wrote:
Apparently, we sent the Chinese noodles.

chow mein or lo mein?
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted:
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Hillary lost... Mellow
banderl Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
chow mein or lo mein?



Cretin
Phil222 Offline
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banderl wrote:
Not like he ever read a book on the subject.


Trump strikes me as the type of guy who only reads his own book and reads from it aloud.

"Chapter 10, Low Rent, High Stakes: The Showdown on Central Park South." BigGrin
banderl Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
chow mein or lo mein?

....When I began to research ... noodle – Noodle meaning “simpleton” is probably unrelated to noodle meaning “pasta.” Noodle meaning “stupid person” was in use ...
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
The scientific consensus is clear. Building on two previous studies (Doran and Zimmerman 2009 and Anderegg et al. 2010), a landmark 2013 peer-reviewed study evaluated 10,306 scientists to confirm that over 97 percent climate scientists agree, and over 97 percent of scientific articles find that global warming is real and largely caused by humans.

Liberal Conspiracy?

98.2% of statistics cited in Internet Forums are 99 44/100% incorrect approximately 99.9% of the time Anxious
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
98.2% of statistics cited in Internet Forums are 99 44/100% incorrect approximately 99.9% of the time Anxious


I agree, 98% of the time.
But this was from a site called "union of concerned scientists "
https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming#.WlBHXGhOmf0

Besides, even if man is not responsible for it, wouldn't you rather err on the side of caution?
I would.
DrafterX Offline
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Like intact regulations that put hundreds of thousands of peoples out of work... Even if it wasn't their fault..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
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Create crap like ethanol that causes the price of milk and beef to skyrocket so we can feel better about the ozone layer..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
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And how about those credit things you had to purchase just to stay in bidness..?? Huh
Ewok126 Offline
#36 Posted:
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It dont really matter now anyhow... 100% of all of you are going to die anyway. Give the worry to the next generation. If they blame me I wont give a chit cause I will be dead as well so I am not going to waste what time I have stressing over it. Not like any of the everyday peeps will listen to wise advice any way cause they all a bunch of idiots, cry babies and butt hurt puzzies.

Just my .02
DrafterX Offline
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Yep.. just your .02... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
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And we have another example of a liberal not being able to have a conversation without disparaging counter opinions... Mellow
bgz Offline
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Not this again, thought we already had a global warming thread... er climate change, or what ever TF their calling it now.

Yes, we affect the climate. No, we're not going to kill the planet. This planet survived 20 ton methane factories (dinosaurs), I'm sure it'll be fine.

TMCTLT Offline
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bgz wrote:
Not this again, thought we already had a global warming thread... er climate change, or what ever TF their calling it now.

Yes, we affect the climate. No, we're not going to kill the planet. This planet survived 20 ton methane factories (dinosaurs), I'm sure it'll be fine.





THIS
Ewok126 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Yep.. just your .02... Mellow



yep Just my .02 ThumpUp

I could have just said it in more layman's terms.


I dont care anymore. Some folks been fighting this fight for a long long time before you was a wet dream, and some like me get tired of wasting my breath since it is disregarded by most and falls on deaf ears. So I wash my hands of it. I have decided to live out the rest of my days in peace and will just stand back and watch it go if it goes. If it dont then it dont. I really don't care if that makes me a liberal or not. I have earned my peace and I am taking it. Herfing
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^+1
tailgater Offline
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abjd14 wrote:
Tailgater, it sounds to me that you don't believe in global warming. I find it disappointing that you are so familiar with the weather, tides, moon cycle, etc, But not in global warming. Im not.saying the flood happened directly due to global warming but in some small way has done so indirectly.



I didn't say I don't believe in global warming.
I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the press.

Weather isn't climate, so when the mayor uses it to "prove" something he should be called out.

And you may want to reconsider your last sentence. You're letting your feelings interfere with logic.
Indirectly? Really?
Climate change can either be defined by local weather, or it can't. You can't pick and choose.
tailgater Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
The scientific consensus is clear. Building on two previous studies (Doran and Zimmerman 2009 and Anderegg et al. 2010), a landmark 2013 peer-reviewed study evaluated 10,306 scientists to confirm that over 97 percent climate scientists agree, and over 97 percent of scientific articles find that global warming is real and largely caused by humans.

Liberal Conspiracy?


LOL!

Consensus?

Tell me, what percentage of global climate change is caused by the burning of fossil fuels?
Because that's what being taxed.

Now, what percentage is caused by our exponential human population growth?
And clear cutting forests?
And by the way we feed the burgeoning population with crop and feedstock acres?
And by how humans now populate coastlines? And control rivers?
And how giant concrete heat absorbing cities are growing larger and larger?

Yet none of these things are being addressed beyond a mere mention in any of the protocols to "curb climate change".
Only carbon credits.

And your "consensus" is divided on at least one major factor: Carbon
Is the percent of carbon in our atmosphere a cause or an effect?
Because warmer air hold more carbon.

And our ONLY way to measure climate and atmosphere from thousands of years ago is to use deep ice sampling.
And does your "consensus" explain why high carbon content is proven to occur AFTER temperature spikes in climate?
If you're unsure what this means, you're not alone.

97%
LOL again.

You don't even know what the question is, so it's funny when you provide an answer.

tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Marco Polo came back with noodles


Pool noodles?
Because I can never find him.


bgz Offline
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tailgater wrote:
LOL!

Consensus?

Tell me, what percentage of global climate change is caused by the burning of fossil fuels?
Because that's what being taxed.

Now, what percentage is caused by our exponential human population growth?
And clear cutting forests?
And by the way we feed the burgeoning population with crop and feedstock acres?
And by how humans now populate coastlines? And control rivers?
And how giant concrete heat absorbing cities are growing larger and larger?

Yet none of these things are being addressed beyond a mere mention in any of the protocols to "curb climate change".
Only carbon credits.

And your "consensus" is divided on at least one major factor: Carbon
Is the percent of carbon in our atmosphere a cause or an effect?
Because warmer air hold more carbon.

And our ONLY way to measure climate and atmosphere from thousands of years ago is to use deep ice sampling.
And does your "consensus" explain why high carbon content is proven to occur AFTER temperature spikes in climate?
If you're unsure what this means, you're not alone.

97%
LOL again.

You don't even know what the question is, so it's funny when you provide an answer.



97% of left funded climate researches agree, the subject requires more funding.
tailgater Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
I agree, 98% of the time.
But this was from a site called "union of concerned scientists "
https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming#.WlBHXGhOmf0

Besides, even if man is not responsible for it, wouldn't you rather err on the side of caution?
I would.


This is the dangerous side effect of media influence.

You use the word "responsible" interchangeably with "influence".

Humans most certainly have an influence on our climate.
But to therefore conclude that we're responsible is an unreasonable jump.

I like many of the "climate" protocols because they have a positive effect on pollution, etc.

I dislike people using algore's hockey stick graph to justify an $18 billion sea wall.


tailgater Offline
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bgz wrote:
97% of left funded climate researches agree, the subject requires more funding.


I think that percentage is low.

Phil222 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Humans most certainly have an influence on our climate.


What do you think is the best way that we can minimize our influence on the climate?
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All of these will require additional funding to see wuz up...


1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.

After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.

2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.

“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”

“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.

Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.

3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”

But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.

4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.

“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”

But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.

“Many places tied or broke record lows all over the Eastern half of the U.S.,”
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