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Poll Question : Covid Immunization
Choice Votes Statistics
Have already taken 4 10 %
Will take when available 23 60 %
Will not take 11 28 %
Total 38 100%

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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2021, 11:21 PM EST
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Ya, I can buy them all day long everyday here... that doesn't make any sense... but different states different priorities I guess... Think
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2021, 11:23 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
^100% positive that OSHA agrees with you...

Thank you. I am OSHA my bruddah.


(at least at my facility)
HockeyDad Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2021, 11:49 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I'll take it...almost had a chance last week, when our county announced it was including 65+ year olds in the group getting vaccines...tried getting an appointment, but all the locations were booked...

now the county says it is out of vaccines, and doesn't know when it'll get more...


California has 1.9 million unused doses now.
Stogie1020 Offline
#54 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 12:30 AM EST
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Volunteered at a POD, got a shot (Pfizer) and a guarantee of the second. Wife has a volunteer shift on the books, hopefully it pans out for her.

One hour of intense chils, sweats, woke me up the morning after the shot. Intense arm soreness for a day. I have heard the response to the second shot is worse...
CelticBomber Offline
#55 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 12:45 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think my answer based on todays meeting is yes and as I said before it's a no brainer in my mind, but I do want to talk to my cardiologist and Gynecologist first. Just cause. I don't really know it it moves me up the list or removes me from it. I suspect the former.



Isn't it amazing how they are figuring out it's RNA doing all the heavy lifting while DNA just sits there sucking it's thumb. I'm taking it... after you all take it and I see it's effects on the continuously crotchety. fog
Plowboy221 Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 6:33 AM EST
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Won’t take it, I’ve eaten from several hundred different truck stops I’m sure I’ll be fine.......
JadeRose Offline
#57 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 4:29 PM EST
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Plowboy221 wrote:
Won’t take it, I’ve given handies at several hundred different truck stops with Drafter. I’m sure I’ll be fine.......




freaks
delta1 Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 4:40 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
California has 1.9 million unused doses now.


not in Riverside County...lotsa demand, very little supply, according to public health officials...all county operated vaccination centers are booked full through next Friday, Jan 29, 2021
streetrod Offline
#59 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 5:16 PM EST
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Received my Pfizer vaccine this morning. So far no issues. Second one scheduled for Feb. 10.
HockeyDad Offline
#60 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 5:18 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
not in Riverside County...lotsa demand, very little supply, according to public health officials...all county operated vaccination centers are booked full through next Friday, Jan 29, 2021


Governor Newsom has been sitting on them in warehouse until the inauguration. I expect they will free up now and the death watch numbers will also start to improve.
ZRX1200 Offline
#61 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 5:48 PM EST
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Yeah I hear a story on the news while in California about 1.5k vaccines tossed due to no shows and now today I can’t even find the story!

Thanks Joe it never happened!
delta1 Offline
#62 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 6:39 PM EST
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here's the story...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/thousands-covid-19-vaccines-wind-garbage-because-fed-state-guidelines-n1254364
teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 6:41 PM EST
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It’s a problem
clintCigar Offline
#64 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 6:49 PM EST
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typical bureaucratic BS
frankj1 Offline
#65 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 7:15 PM EST
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I heard those were the ballots that were for Trump that he found in some river in some state somewhere in America...

too soon?
teedubbya Offline
#66 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 7:45 PM EST
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Problem with the vaccines if you get too cute about who gets it and who doesn’t you end up throwing it away. once it’s mixed with saline the clock really starts ticking.
Whistlebritches Offline
#67 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 8:39 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Thank you. I am OSHA my bruddah.


(at least at my facility)



Jesus what kind of buffoons run that facility
delta1 Offline
#68 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 8:45 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Problem with the vaccines if you get too cute about who gets it and who doesn’t you end up throwing it away. once it’s mixed with saline the clock really starts ticking.



that was the primary reason given for trashing them...agencies were too afraid to ignore the guidelines when they had more than they needed to jab the tier 1A folks and couldn't get approval to go to lower tiers...some places ignored the guidelines after the first shots were given and they had left overs, gave them to random peeps...

https://www.businessinsider.com/random-people-are-getting-vaccinated-with-extra-doses-at-pharmacies-2021-1
teedubbya Offline
#69 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 9:07 PM EST
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Common sense goes a long way
frankj1 Offline
#70 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 10:34 PM EST
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I wouldn't know.
BuckyB93 Offline
#71 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 11:40 PM EST
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So you're OK that pharmacies ignore guidelines and inject random peeps with the vaccine?

What if Trump tweeted that people should check in at your local healthcare places, pharmacies, etc. because they have leftover doses and that these places should ignore guidelines and go ahead and give any leftovers to anyone asking for them, even stop passerbys to offer the injections?

You guys would be foaming at the mouth about impeachment, overstepping bounds, ignoring the science professionals, malpractice, inciting mobs to storm the healthcare facilities and any other blather you could come up with.

Tell me I'm wrong.
ZRX1200 Offline
#72 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 11:46 PM EST
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And tier 1 had an “ethnic” component.

Thanks Al.
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted: Wed, Jan 20 2021, 11:52 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
So you're OK that pharmacies ignore guidelines and inject random peeps with the vaccine?

What if Trump tweeted that people should check in at your local healthcare places, pharmacies, etc. because they have leftover doses and that these places should ignore guidelines and go ahead and give any leftovers to anyone asking for them, even stop passerbys to offer the injections?

You guys would be foaming at the mouth about impeachment, overstepping bounds, ignoring the science professionals, malpractice, inciting mobs to storm the healthcare facilities and any other blather you could come up with.

Tell me I'm wrong.


No. I was referring to the guidelines themselves. The root.
BuckyB93 Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 12:10 AM EST
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But it's still OK for them to ignore the guidelines and go ahead and act on their own?

Again, if Trump tweeted for them to do this what would your reaction be?
teedubbya Offline
#75 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 1:24 AM EST
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No. I’m talking about common sense setting the guidelines. I’m not where you are at at all.

BuckyB93 Offline
#76 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 1:47 AM EST
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I thought we were supposed to follow the guidelines set out by the medical professionals who know all the data and stuff. So we just ditch that and now set the guidelines based on common sense and ignore the medical professionals' guidelines? If we are to set the guidelines based on common sense, who's common sense are we suppose to be using?

Sounds kinda hypocritical when you've been beating the drum that we must follow the guidelines and mandates set up by the medical professionals all this time. You've been blasting everyone for not doing so. But when the health care professionals don't follow the guidelines they are just using common sense so it's all good.

Within each shipment of vaccine, the guidelines for who gets what and when simply states: "Guidelines for administering: Use your common sense."

I like it, short and sweet. Uses less paper.

Still wondering what your reaction would have been if Trump tweeted to ignore the guidelines and just use common sense, go to the nearest healthcare facility and ask if they have any leftovers to give out.

Jonsie, see any leftovers while dumpster diving? Set up a vaccine booth at your HUT.
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 2:30 AM EST
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I don’t think you understand what I am saying at all.
BuckyB93 Offline
#78 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 7:05 AM EST
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Feel free to elaborate. The initial questions I has were.

So you're OK that pharmacies and/or health care facilities ignore guidelines and inject random peeps with the vaccine?

What if Trump tweeted that people should check in at your local healthcare places, pharmacies, etc. because they have leftover doses and that these places should ignore guidelines and go ahead and give any leftovers to anyone asking for them, even stop passerbys to offer the injections?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 7:53 AM EST
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Allow me to jump into TW's headspace for a moment.

1) Damn, my azz hurts. When will it stop? Guess I really was full of chit.

2) If Trump were to tweet exactly as you stated, then yes, he would be met with ridicule. Overwhelming facilities that don't have the supply to meet demand will end badly.

However, if he were to come up with something along the lines of empowering these vaccine facilities to come up with a procedure to create a wait list after the local 1a needs were met in order to use doses effectively as opposed to tossing them in the garbage, this would be chalked up to common sense.

3) Wrong forum, noob. Political inflammation can be had at any number of other threads on a daily basis
tonygraz Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 8:31 AM EST
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So 9 - do you really expect that anyone with any sense pays attention to what trump tweets ? We should have stand byes for excess vaccine doses - we don't have enough to throw them away.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:16 AM EST
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Bucky I don’t know how else to say it. I’m not suggesting nor have I ever that anyone should ignore guidelines. Thus your question to me makes no sense.

So no I’m not ok with what you describe Trump doing in your hypothetical. No. Just no.

More common sense is needed in setting the guidelines or protocols. Some states did better than others at it. There are no federal limits once the states get it. There really was not much of a distribution plan at all particularly with the military and singing angels etc. that was all made up like the health care plan coming next week. It was a lie.

There are some suggestions but that’s it. Some states went overboard with their rules and some providers took it very literally and evidently scared of repercussions if not following state or local guidelines. It really depends on locality how silly things are. A little common sense would go a long way.

I think you have tunnel vision on this one.

As for wrong forum.... probably yes. Unfortunately. This never should have been political.
teedubbya Offline
#82 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:19 AM EST
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And yes SOB is not far off on things lol.
teedubbya Offline
#83 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:24 AM EST
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And for the record there are folks not on the “priority list” getting the vaccine in instances where otherwise it would be thrown away. The guidelines are not meant to dissuade this. I’ve spoken to more than one who benefited from this.

There was never an intention to be so draconian. It’s a perishable product. This isn’t new in the medical field nor is it controversial or political. Politics should stay out. The fact politics or fear of it is even involved may contribute to wasted doses.
MACS Offline
#84 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:36 AM EST
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Let it rest Bucky. Does no good at this point. People see what they want to see.

Besides... it's our turn to criticize everything Biden does or says. You 100% know the media won't.
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:41 AM EST
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It has nothing to do with Biden or trump. That’s the point.
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 9:43 AM EST
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Politics needs to get out of this.
Stogie1020 Offline
#87 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:13 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Politics needs to get out of this.


Sudden change in the direction of the wind.... Coming about!
MACS Offline
#88 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:13 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Politics needs to get out of this.


I agree. Tell that to the politicians.
MACS Offline
#89 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:14 AM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Sudden change in the direction of the wind.... Coming about!


Ain't that the damn truth of it!
opelmanta1900 Offline
#90 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:23 AM EST
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Some people on this forum need to go to their local mensa chapter and have their iq tested... several of you are far less intelligent than you think you are...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:29 AM EST
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Far far less intelligent... I think some of you are so dumb you're not going to be able to comprehend just how low your iq really is, just how non qualified you are to speak on absolutely anything and everything...

I mean, no one on this forum is a genius, but some of you are so dumb I'm surprised you know how to breathe... I've seen alcoholics and child beaters register their opinion as fact as if anyone with half a functioning brain would ever read anything they wrote and believe it to be anything other than half-tard, inbred regurgitation of some idiotic entertainment news program...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#92 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:29 AM EST
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Happy thursday...
teedubbya Offline
#93 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:33 AM EST
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Stifle I’ve said that all along. No change at all. Where ya been?
teedubbya Offline
#94 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:41 AM EST
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Stifle = stogie

Honestly I’ve been very consistent on this whole thing the whole time. I don’t rely on the news or what they tell me to think.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#95 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 10:48 AM EST
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Others here have been consistent as well... I mean, being consistently wrong is still a form of consistency...
Smooth light Offline
#96 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 11:04 AM EST
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Are we talking about giving out, vaccine doses or common sense?
delta1 Offline
#97 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 11:28 AM EST
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my sense is that people who give out are better, don't matter if it's vaccines or bread...

lotta stores have specific use by dates, and would typically throw tons of food away...many don't follow the letter of the law, instead donating food to food banks or homeless shelters where it is consumed safely and quickly...

but guidelines that are designed to keep people safe and healthy, like OSHA, should commonly be followed and if not, there should be consequences...
bgz Offline
#98 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 11:29 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Far far less intelligent... I think some of you are so dumb you're not going to be able to comprehend just how low your iq really is, just how non qualified you are to speak on absolutely anything and everything...

I mean, no one on this forum is a genius, but some of you are so dumb I'm surprised you know how to breathe... I've seen alcoholics and child beaters register their opinion as fact as if anyone with half a functioning brain would ever read anything they wrote and believe it to be anything other than half-tard, inbred regurgitation of some idiotic entertainment news program...


Tell em how you really feel... oh wait, never took a mensa test accept for that one that was online a while back that was trying to sell menza memberships. After taking it, it tried to sell me a membership, but I'm sure it did that for everyone, so I didn't feel all that special. Plus I was a broke college student at the time, so I don't have an online menza certificate... in hindsight I should have bought it.
teedubbya Offline
#99 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 11:34 AM EST
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Delta there are no guidelines federally. CDC has suggestions but really once out to the states so be it.

Each state is different. Some did better than others.

The whole debate here is built on false premises and misses the reality.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#100 Posted: Thu, Jan 21 2021, 11:42 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
Tell em how you really feel...

Came in a bit hot this morning, sorry...

It's just that, the way people on the far right can't stand people on the far left and find their ideologies to be ridiculous, and the way people on the far left can't stand people on the far right and find their ideologies to be ridiculous - that's how the vast majority of our nation views both of these groups of people...

So if you're on the far right and have ever found yourself disgusted by the people and policies on the far left - that's how normal people look at you all the time... same for the far left....

It's gotten old... it's 2 groups of people too stupid to know how stupid they are... and they're loud...
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