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BiDeN & YELLen want ALL YOUR $$$ MONEY transactions!!
Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted:
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d'oh!

A new law is being proposed for all banks to rEPORT ALL TRANSACTIONs (IN OR OUT ) OF ALL BANK aCCOUNTS OVER $600 !!!

What
The
F**k???

What's wrong with the current $10K law?

I'm currently watching that two faced lying POS JANET YELLEN crying that the US is losing 7 trillion dollars of taxes due to the govt over the next ten years because they don't have this $600 and over info from all Americans bank accounts...

This bitch is clueless...she charges $800k to wallstreet brokerages to give speeches at conferences...that is out right bribery and illegal as hell...but she wants to know when you deposit $600 or spend $600 or more every single time you do...

Total BIG BROTHER NAZI BULL SHIIITTTT
HockeyDad Offline
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Elections have consequences.
ZRX1200 Online
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It’s ok, they’re only going after billionaires.

Trust them.
RayR Offline
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I tried to tell them Mr. Jones, that these progtards are evil.

That they don't respect private property and voluntary transactions. They are unAmerican in any traditional sense, they piss on the Constitution. They say you are not secure in your person, papers and effects because they are BIG BROTHER and BIG BROTHER knows best.

They think everything belongs to them and they shall decide how much you can keep and what you can do with it

They'll spy on everything you do and decide that you are a criminal if they don't like who you deal with and how you spend your money.

I tried to tell B-G-Z that they will come for his crypto because they don't like him sneaking around dealing in non-sovereign monies without them getting a cut that they'll determine is their "fair share".

They are running a Mafia-style protection racket and call it good government.

Like King George III, they'll erect a multitude of New Offices and send hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. On top of the $600 plan, Herr Biden wants to double the number of IRS Gestapo agents by hiring another 87,000.

To add outrageous insult to injury they want a major tax increase on cigars too.
rfenst Offline
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Democrats Eye Narrowing Biden Plan on Bank Reporting to IRS

Bloomberg

Democrats in Congress are considering a plan that would require banks to report accounts with at least $10,000 to the Internal Revenue Service -- well above the Biden administration’s proposed $600 threshold -- while also exempting some common transactions from the law.

“We’ve made some significant movement on the number,” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal said Monday. The Massachusetts Democrat said he backed the $10,000 figure from “day one” of considering the proposal, and that Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden also supports it.

In addition, lawmakers’ staff members have begun working on language to exempt payments from payroll processors from the reporting requirements, according to a Senate Democratic aide familiar with negotiations. Removing direct deposits from the calculation would likely drastically reduce the number of accounts covered by the reporting rules.

The narrowing of President Joe Biden’s proposal to require financial institutions to report account flows the IRS responds to concerns that the plan would give federal tax collectors information used to single out taxpayers over small amounts of unreported income. Democrats are considering adding the plan to an up-to-$3.5-trillion social spending bill to offset some of the costs.

“The idea is to build in guardrails so that people at the lower end are not targeted. This is about people at the upper end,” Neal said in an interview. “We do think we can raise the level of compliance from everybody with more procedural requirements.”

Neal said congressional staff were looking at ways to “ameliorate legitimate concerns” among lower-income taxpayers that the data could be used to target them. The idea is one of dozens of tax proposals that Democrats are currently considering to finance a bill to invest in climate programs, child care and education.

Exempting mortgage payments from the threshold is another possible option to limit the reach of the reporting proposal, the Democratic aide said. The person said staffers are crafting the language so exempted payments would have to go to verified recipients, as a way to curb potential abuse.

Lobbying Effort
The bank-reporting proposal to give the IRS more visibility into the deposits and outflows of many account owners has run into heavy lobbying from banks, along with objections from Republicans and some Democrats who are concerned that it would give the agency too much of taxpayers’ personal data.

A more narrowly targeted proposal could help win over support from some hesitant Democrats. The idea was excluded from an initial House version of the tax bill partly because lawmakers couldn’t reach agreement on the measure. The plan could be added at several points as the legislation makes it way through the House and Senate in the coming weeks.

While the Treasury Department estimated its information-reporting plan would raise $463 billion over a decade, Congress’s official scorekeepers have said the new reporting data would have only a small positive effect on revenue if Democrats succeed in increasing the IRS’s enforcement budget, as planned.

Congressional Democrats anticipate a separate estimate in coming days on how much the reporting provision will add in revenues on its own. That could make or break the policy, because if it does not raise significant revenue by itself it may be seen as not worth the political headache to include.

Democrats in Congress also want to prevent another pillar of Biden’s tax plan from collapsing after one key proposal -- to end a tax break tied to inheriting assets that have appreciated -- failed to garner sufficient support.
MACS Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Elections have consequences.


Yeaup...
Stogie1020 Offline
#7 Posted:
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OPM couldn't even keep my SS# private. Now the Gov't wants to remove a firewall between private banks and the IRS?

No thanks...
Dg west deptford Offline
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$10,000.!?
I thought the BSA rules were reduced to $3000. A while ago.
I know here in Jersey if I want cash, or any monetary instrument over $3000. I need to tell the feds what brand of toilet paper I use then wait for approval.
I can write checks for millions but an untraceable instrument over $3000. Nope
Stogie1020 Offline
#9 Posted:
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screw cash and Crypto, I am pouring funds into Skee Ball tickets.

Currency of the future.
ZRX1200 Online
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#5 you ok with that Robert?
rfenst Offline
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Banks are currently required to report cash transactions over $10k.

Did you know your employer already reports your pay at least quarterly, and that big employers have to report much more frequently, perhaps weekly or bi-weekly, depending on the amount of the payroll taxes due...

Did you know that any year in which you hire someone to work for you and pay them $600 or more, you are required to issue them an annual 1099 and cc the government with a copy of it?

Did you know that even if you earn less than $600, you are personally still required to declare it?

Eventually, ALL our currency will be digital and the government will know every single transactions we make. No way to get off this slippery slope.



RayR Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
#5 you ok with that Robert?


Robert is OK with it as long as it's legal. Glare
As long as the robed despots legislate it from the bench as Constitutional.fog
danmdevries Offline
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Tax the rich.

And churches.
rfenst Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
#5 you ok with that Robert?

No
ZRX1200 Online
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👍
tonygraz Offline
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It's something that Reagan was working on but never got much done. It's all about unreported income from payments "under the table" and cash laundering. Big brother's eyes are scrutinizing us more every year. I can already hear the screams "freedom".
ZRX1200 Online
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We hear bootlicking, carry on tavorich, ya ziniyou.
rfenst Offline
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I googled to find out the IRS estimates $1 trillion/year lost from unpaid taxes based on cash transactions.
HockeyDad Offline
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I assume from now on any $600 transaction will get a letter from the IRS and a form to fill out.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Don't take the mark
RayR Offline
#21 Posted:
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The IRS has 666 written all over it.
RobertHively Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Don't take the mark


But everybody is doing it. I'm sure they'll say it's safe and effective. Listen to the experts.
bgz Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
screw cash and Crypto, I am pouring funds into Skee Ball tickets.

Currency of the future.


I'm taking all my crypto money and investing it into bottlecaps.
tonygraz Offline
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Is that the conversation piece for the next Zoom herf ?
bgz Offline
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Ya!!!!

All bout them caps baby!!!
Mr. Jones Offline
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The more I watched that CSPAN JANET YELLEN HEARING...

...THE HIGHER MY BLOOD PRESSURE GOT...

I HAD TO STOP DRINKING MORE COFFEE ..

THAT STUPID BITCH IS SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY IT MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM....

THAT C*NT CHARGES $800 L.A.R.G.E. FOR A SPEECH ( OF which she made 2 ? Or 3? For $1.6 to $ 2.4 million )for talking/speaking to overpaid wallstreet brokerage criminals at a convention... for 8 hours? Maybe???
that should be a first degree felony crime if there ever was one!!

Some homeless bum in Pennsylvania took a soda and paid $2.00 then left a store, he was charged with a felony because he owed .46 cents more and the store owner pressed charges ( Google it, that was paraphrasing the #'s but it was less than a $1 buck That "he stole") and this guy gets charged with a felony???

W.T.F.???

AND SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHEN I or you MAKE or spend $600 IN CASH??

WHAT THE F**k Is wrong with her M.I.N.D.??

SHE IS PSYCHOTIC moron with a big financial vocabulary AND she is very very DANGEROUS...
DrafterX Offline
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You want Frank and me should have a talk with her..?? Huh
RayR Offline
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The old crooked FED biddy needs a good talkin too.
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
You want Frank and me should have a talk with her..?? Huh

William!
How'd that thing go last week?
DrafterX Offline
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everybody died... it was the salmon mousse.. Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
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Sounds like draf-TAAAHHH MADE BANK???

and some peeps are sleeping wit' da' 🐟's
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DrafterX wrote:
everybody died... it was the salmon mousse.. Mellow


that gas station salmon mousse will get them every time...d'oh!
bgz Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
Tax the rich.

And churches.


YES!!!

Tax those profit takers (mainly the churches)... non-profits my azz, buncha ballers.
Mr. Jones Offline
#34 Posted:
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Da COVID put ALL THE CHURCHES IN THE RED...

THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO TAX 🤑 💰🤑💰

WHAT KIND OF IDIOT WOULD TITH during a pandemic?
Apparently...not many did...
bgz Offline
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So covid made people smarter?

*scratches head*
RayR Offline
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COVID didn't make you smarter....that's for sure!
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
COVID didn't make you smarter....that's for sure!


Nope, I was already pushing my hardware prior to covid... so there wasn't a lot of gains to be made.

COVID didn't make you any smarter either, if I could hook into your brain via terminal and run htop, there would be like no load average.

Which is good, means you should be cool and idle, but you don't really do a whole lot or provide a whole lot of service...

Unless your fans are all dusty and your hardware is all old and sh*t, then you're running hot and more likely to crash.
tonygraz Offline
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I wonder if Jonesy realizes he's leaving a record of untaxed income here ?
rfenst Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
I wonder if Jonesy realizes he's leaving a record of untaxed income here ?

Shut up!
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Nope, I was already pushing my hardware prior to covid... so there wasn't a lot of gains to be made.

COVID didn't make you any smarter either, if I could hook into your brain via terminal and run htop, there would be like no load average.

Which is good, means you should be cool and idle, but you don't really do a whole lot or provide a whole lot of service...

Unless your fans are all dusty and your hardware is all old and sh*t, then you're running hot and more likely to crash.


I didn't have COVID, you did. You were probably a mess before COVID but if we could hook into your brain via terminal and run htop, we'd find the virus is still spawning processes that are overloading your CPU. You're heading for a crash Ben, like that POS Biden that you irrationally voted for.
Mr. Jones Offline
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#29 RFENST
+1

Yes Tony ...shuddddup!
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
I didn't have COVID, you did. You were probably a mess before COVID but if we could hook into your brain via terminal and run htop, we'd find the virus is still spawning processes that are overloading your CPU. You're heading for a crash Ben, like that POS Biden that you irrationally voted for.


If Norton was here he would reject this sh*t ^^^
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Norton!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylvWg6AV7g
bgz Offline
#44 Posted:
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Ray... Norton wants his 2 fidy
Mr. Jones Offline
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Hey USGUBMENT...
TONYgraz MAKES BIG BUCKS...
RayR Offline
#46 Posted:
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TONYgraz should pay his "fair share" The USGUBMENT doesn't like cheaters, they don't like the competition.
Smooth light Offline
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Norton heard the who and he left
RayR Offline
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Now we know where B-G-Z gets his mental ammo...Norton!
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
Now we know where B-G-Z gets his mental ammo...Norton!


I just want my $3.50 Ray.
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tonygraz wrote:
I wonder if Jonesy realizes he's leaving a record of untaxed income here ?


Shut up!
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