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robertsccr5 Offline
#51 Posted: Sat, Jan 3 2015, 2:22 AM EST
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I have gone through a couple of antique and special reserve but can't find 12 year to save my life.
dkeage Offline
#52 Posted: Sat, Jan 3 2015, 6:45 PM EST
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robertsccr5 wrote:
Anyone have easy access to Weller 12?

I can check. One local usually has it...
robertsccr5 Offline
#53 Posted: Sat, Jan 3 2015, 10:11 PM EST
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dkeage wrote:
I can check. One local usually has it...

Thanks! I like the other two and would love to try some of the 12. Appreciate the help.
t33bone Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Jan 8 2015, 1:59 PM EST
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Me stick to paying a little more with the Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve.
namadio Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Jan 8 2015, 3:09 PM EST
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t33bone wrote:
Me stick to paying a little more with the Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve.


I got my bottle at home from the beam distillery tour a few months back. haven't managed to crack it open yet.

I did crack open a bottle of 1792 RR that I don't remember paying more than 30 bucks for. That stuff was damn good.
dkeage Offline
#56 Posted: Fri, Jan 9 2015, 5:39 PM EST
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robertsccr5 wrote:
Thanks! I like the other two and would love to try some of the 12. Appreciate the help.

Brick wall The stuff was everywhere a couple weeks ago. Not to be found now. Talked to the whiskey dude n he said there was some in Austin....Frying pan

They should be getting more, but he wasn't sure when. Sorry about that. I'll keep an eye out
frankj1 Offline
#57 Posted: Fri, Jan 9 2015, 7:29 PM EST
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used to be plentiful and cheap in these parts, but ever since a "rumor" leaked about a year ago that it was much like Pappy, it evaporated.
robertsccr5 Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 2:58 AM EST
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dkeage wrote:
Brick wall The stuff was everywhere a couple weeks ago. Not to be found now. Talked to the whiskey dude n he said there was some in Austin....Frying pan

They should be getting more, but he wasn't sure when. Sorry about that. I'll keep an eye out



Bummer. I appreciate the look out!!
jwweod Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:13 AM EST
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I would not call it best but a decent bargain is available on base called Military Special. A liter for under $10. read somewhere that its from the same distillery that makes Elijah Craig.
pdxstogieman Offline
#60 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 3:22 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
12 is hard to find now....unfortunately.

Antique 107 and regular are easy to find.


The regular Weller Reserve is what I usually keep on hand.


Since bargain basement was the topic of the thread here I'll throw out these as quaffable stuff south of $20:

Rebel Reserve
George Dickel 8

Just north of $20

Ezra B 12 yr
Jim Beam Black
Buffalo Trace
Weller Reserve

Over $25 - No longer bargain bourbon. Should be discussed in another thread.
ZRX1200 Offline
#61 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:14 PM EST
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Dickle is Tennessee whiskey
Whistlebritches Offline
#62 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:30 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Dickle is Tennessee whiskey


You are correct....However it is the finest Tennessee Whisky made,especially #12 and Barrel Select,and worthy of sitting alongside the finest bourbons available.

Just my .02
ZRX1200 Offline
#63 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:31 PM EST
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Truth^
shaun341 Offline
#64 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:40 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Dickle is Tennessee whiskey



Dickle 8 for under $20 is a steal to. $25 here is best I have seen. Weird the 12 is same price at same local.
ZRX1200 Offline
#65 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:53 PM EST
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The rye is $20 and is a steal too
Mr Roso Offline
#66 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 4:58 PM EST
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Larceny - Darn good whiskey for $18. Add a couple of drops of water and it pairs nicely with a good vitola.
pdxstogieman Offline
#67 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 5:03 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Dickle is Tennessee whiskey


Yeah, yeah, I know, but frankly it's corn sour mash whiskey and everything about it is the same as bourbon except for the fact it's made in Tennessee. It's not like we're talking about Canadian or Scotch vs Bourbon. A rose by any other name.
Bur Offline
#68 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 9:02 PM EST
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Just picked up some Jim Beam Rye at the Marine Class Six for $12. First rye and had just a little sip earlier. Some on the rocks later for the true taste test.
robertsccr5 Offline
#69 Posted: Sat, Jan 10 2015, 9:14 PM EST
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Bur wrote:
Just picked up some Jim Beam Rye at the Marine Class Six for $12. First rye and had just a little sip earlier. Some on the rocks later for the true taste test.

Rocks?? No way bro. Mutes the flavors. Just put the glass in refrigerator for 5 minutes prior to drinking. After initial taste test then drink to your liking.

That's how I do it anyway.
namadio Offline
#70 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 1:15 AM EST
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Yeah, yeah, I know, but frankly it's corn sour mash whiskey and everything about it is the same as bourbon except for the fact it's made in Tennessee. It's not like we're talking about Canadian or Scotch vs Bourbon. A rose by any other name.


Is it charcoal filtered? My understanding is thats main diff between most tenn sour mash and bourbon
alpine951 Offline
#71 Posted: Thu, Feb 5 2015, 4:53 PM EST
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I have morphed into liking wheated bourbons. Used to be able to Weller antique for a steal but my local place doesn't have it anymore. I have found Larceny for $25 and like it muchly. It's a wheated bourbon like weller and Makers Mark.
ZRX1200 Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, Feb 5 2015, 4:59 PM EST
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Yeah Tennessee whiskey is by law charcoal filtered.
alpine951 Offline
#73 Posted: Fri, Feb 6 2015, 9:47 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah Tennessee whiskey is by law charcoal filtered.



Apparently what a Tennessee whiskey is, is still up for debate.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/19/321080522/its-not-tennessee-whiskey-if-its-aged-in-kentucky-state-says
Abrignac Offline
#74 Posted: Fri, Feb 6 2015, 9:56 AM EST
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Me thinks that if Diageo wants to label Dickel as Tennessee whiskey it should not only follow the letter of the law, but also the spirit of the law. The mashing, distilling, blending and aging are all part of the manufacturing process. Sounds like they have found a cheaper way to blend the whiskey in Virginia and desire to use cheaper used barrels. But, they still want to call it Tennessee whiskey. I have bought my last bottle until this plays out.
pdxstogieman Offline
#75 Posted: Sat, Feb 7 2015, 12:35 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah Tennessee whiskey is by law charcoal filtered.


Benjamin Pritchard's has an exception. The only Tennessee Whiskey not charcoal filtered.
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#76 Posted: Sat, Feb 7 2015, 3:14 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Me thinks that if Diageo wants to label Dickel as Tennessee whiskey it should not only follow the letter of the law, but also the spirit of the law. The mashing, distilling, blending and aging are all part of the manufacturing process. Sounds like they have found a cheaper way to blend the whiskey in Virginia and desire to use cheaper used barrels. But, they still want to call it Tennessee whiskey. I have bought my last bottle until this plays out.


I knew Diageo bought GD.I can find where no changes to the process,distillation or maturation have been made by Diageo.

Enlighten me.......please include links if possible.


Ron
twink Offline
#77 Posted: Sat, Feb 7 2015, 3:16 PM EST
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Jeremiah Weed or old hills shine run through the briquets.
Abrignac Offline
#78 Posted: Sat, Feb 7 2015, 10:08 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
I knew Diageo bought GD.I can find where no changes to the process,distillation or maturation have been made by Diageo.

Enlighten me.......please include links if possible.


Ron



See post #73

According to the article, Dickel is blended in Virginia. I'm thinking blending is part of the entire manufacturing process that begins at mashing and ends at bottling.

If what I read is correct in order to be Tennessee Whiskey it must be among other things manufactured in Tennessee. If it is blended out of state inwould think that would violate laws regarding branding it as Tennessee Whiskey. It's still good whiskey though.

As far as me not buying anymore, I'm sure I haven't bought my last bottle.
shaun341 Offline
#79 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 8:56 AM EST
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Kind of a whiskey noob here but I find the argument of where the whiskey is made dull at best. Can a recipe not travel over state lines. Can similar techniques not be used in other states. I don't get it honestly except for it being just another reason a state can brag it is better then another state.
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#80 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 9:10 AM EST
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They make the same argument with cognac. Has to be made in a certain region of france.
thurson Offline
#81 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 9:58 AM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Kind of a whiskey noob here but I find the argument of where the whiskey is made dull at best. Can a recipe not travel over state lines. Can similar techniques not be used in other states. I don't get it honestly except for it being just another reason a state can brag it is better then another state.



Here you go...good stuff btw.

http://www.stgeorgespirits.com/spirit/bourbon/
frankj1 Offline
#82 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 10:23 AM EST
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thurson wrote:
Here you go...good stuff btw.

http://www.stgeorgespirits.com/spirit/bourbon/


aha! you're the guy who knew about these people...

I believe they also were the original producers of the highly regarded HangarOne line of vodkas. I think they sold it off but still make it under contract for the new owners.

also, as far as Tenn vs Kentucky, legal definitions aside, I believe a difference in final product quality may relate to charcoal filtering vs limestone. More important than where it all ends up being bottled. St George's is really bourbon.
ZRX1200 Offline
#83 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 11:00 AM EST
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Oh it is a dull argument but this here forum has it's tedious bassturdz so I take pleasure in razzing guys about it Shaun. I would say the terroir of the ingredients can play a role in flavor profile.
twink Offline
#84 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 11:24 AM EST
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Southern Comfort the blend of the unbottled best
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#85 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 1:28 PM EST
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Just bought a bottle of "Larceny". New and recommended by one of the clerks, not bad.
Abrignac Offline
#86 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 3:41 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Kind of a whiskey noob here but I find the argument of where the whiskey is made dull at best. Can a recipe not travel over state lines. Can similar techniques not be used in other states. I don't get it honestly except for it being just another reason a state can brag it is better then another state.



It's not about the whiskey. It's the labeling. The argument is whether are not Dickel can legally be labeled as Tennessee Whiskey. No one is saying the fact that it travels to Virginia to be blended affects it's taste.

Think of it like Chianti. In order for a wine to be labeled as such it must be produced from grapes grown and processed in a certain region of Italy. If certain regulations set forth in Italian law are not followed, it cannot be labeled as Chianti.
ZRX1200 Offline
#87 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 6:47 PM EST
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is this the new "Table Wine" thread now?
shaun341 Offline
#88 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 7:02 PM EST
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Does that mean then that bourbon must use its grains from Kentucky to be considered bourbon or same from Tennessee whiskey? I was under the impression it was about where more so then with what.
ZRX1200 Offline
#89 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 7:09 PM EST
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I don't believe the "law" states where the grain has to come from but I may be wrong. Abrignac will tell us after his Google machine warms up.
twink Offline
#90 Posted: Sun, Feb 8 2015, 7:46 PM EST
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if your flapping your lips you aint drinking bourbon, thats are I see here wannabees flapping lips
Abrignac Offline
#91 Posted: Mon, Feb 9 2015, 1:13 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I don't believe the "law" states where the grain has to come from but I may be wrong. Abrignac will tell us after his Google machine warms up.



Don't have time to google. My free time has been consumed by someone who says he can put a hoodoo on a judge with a couple chicken bones and a little mustard and ketchup.

You can't make this kinda chit up.
ZRX1200 Offline
#92 Posted: Mon, Feb 9 2015, 1:27 AM EST
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Voodoo hot dog vigilante?
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#93 Posted: Mon, Feb 9 2015, 1:40 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Don't have time to google. My free time has been consumed by someone who says he can put a hoodoo on a judge with a couple chicken bones and a little mustard and ketchup.

You can't make this kinda chit up.

Your okay if you sprinkle ...either flower,brick dust or cocaine around you....I'm sure I seen it in a movie somewhere...Oh and you gotta believe too....
Or maybe he has snorted all three and just hasn't clocked out yet


Good luck


Hold on a second...That guys been on here all weekend......your screwed...srry.
Shoot to kill!!!!!!
Abrignac Offline
#94 Posted: Mon, Feb 9 2015, 2:26 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Voodoo hot dog vigilante?



I thought it was voodoo. I asked him about 4 times to be sure. He insisted it was a hoodoo.

Thread jack off carry on.
Palama Offline
#95 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2023, 11:55 AM EST
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Two surprising bargain bourbons for me:

Old Tub - 100 proof
Fighting C#O#C#K - 103 proof and a tad smoother than OT

Both were under $20 and I’m thinking I should get another bottle of each.
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