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What wine you whinos drinking 1,000,000??
651. Author: StinkdyrDate: Fri, 8/18/2017, 2:21PM EST
Speyside wrote:
...... If you find Pine Ridge it is worth trying.



Ecco that! It is not nearly as polluted with oak as most west coast wines.


Applause
652. Author: StinkdyrDate: Fri, 8/18/2017, 2:48PM EST
Mattie B wrote:
Don't make me send you some.

Try them Frank. You won't be disappointed. The rose is made from Mourvèdre. Very different from the Provence style.

The Pinot , well there aren't many that I don't like.



Are they over-oaky like so many CA wines?

Think
653. Author: StinkdyrDate: Fri, 8/18/2017, 2:59PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
didn't get the name, but a nice syrah rose (x2) with this

CHARRED OCTOPUS | 15
toasted almond mole, yellow raisins, roasted grapes

at Burro Bar in Brookline MA

Stinkdyr, very good place on Beacon St near Washington St.



Thx for the tip, Frank!
I will seek it out.

Beer
654. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 8/18/2017, 5:32PM EST
I was never at the original in Cambridge or Slumerville, but I believe it is called Painted Burro.

This one is small, cool vibe, and gets you out of the city without schlepping an hour.
655. Author: Arrow_34Date: Sat, 8/19/2017, 3:34PM EST
Wife and were drinking napa cellars cab 2014. Not bad, was one "clearance" at our local store. But dry. But if you decant for a few hours, really opens up.
656. Author: SpeysideDate: Sat, 8/19/2017, 9:08PM EST
Rose, there are really three different types and they started in France. Provance, which is comprised of Grenache, Syrah, and various other grapes indigenous to the region. Burgundy, which is Pinot Noir. And Bandol which is Mouvedre, and other grapes indigenous to the region. Mattie is right a Mouvedre based rose is very different. It is somewhat large and structured. And it ages well, probably up to 5 years if you want. Now rose is made world wide from various grapes. A good rose should be bone dry, with a good backbone of acidity. I stay away from Italian and South American rose. They tend to be off dry, not something I enjoy. Rose from Bordeaux, though rare, is also rather large. It can have any of the 4 primary grapes in it. I particularly find Sancerre rose interesting. It is Pinot Noir based, and has a core of interesting minerality, probably due to the limestone in the soil. Most good rose is made through the saignee method. To intensify their red wine a producer bleeds off about 10% of the juice after 2 or 3 days of maceration. That juice ends up becoming rose.
657. Author: Mattie BDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 7:25PM EST
It's not very often I lay out a wine that is a must buy...but this one is legit

J Vidal Fleury Cotes du Rhone

A French red blend of mostly Grenache.

Retail should be around $15.


All I can say is...

But it!!!
658. Author: PeckerheadDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 8:34PM EST
2012 Chateau de Belcier Castillon Cotes de Bordeaux (what a friggin' mouthful/as I read the bottle)

Not normally a huge Merlot fan, but I do like them when they come from Bordeaux.
..and this one is CHEAP. Scored this at Costco for $10. Gonna get a case.
It's not a single varietal, has a splash of Cabernet Franc and Malbec in it to round it out.
It's nice and dry with dark cherry/berry notes. A little thin but very enjoyable, especially for the price.
If you've never tried an affordable Bordeaux, give this one a try, especially to taste the difference between
a California and a French Merlot.

Salut!
659. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 8:36PM EST
Mattie, that is a fine bottle. It is a blend of Grenache, Syrah, and Mourvedre if memory serves me right. I also think there is some declassified Gigondas blended in. That's why it is so rich.
660. Author: frankj1Date: Mon, 8/21/2017, 8:49PM EST
Peckerhead wrote:
2012 Chateau de Belcier Castillon Cotes de Bordeaux (what a friggin' mouthful/as I read the bottle)

Not normally a huge Merlot fan, but I do like them when they come from Bordeaux.
..and this one is CHEAP. Scored this at Costco for $10. Gonna get a case.
It's not a single varietal, has a splash of Cabernet Franc and Malbec in it to round it out.
It's nice and dry with dark cherry/berry notes. A little thin but very enjoyable, especially for the price.
If you've never tried an affordable Bordeaux, give this one a try, especially to taste the difference between
a California and a French Merlot.

Salut!

I find the more years I get into this, I have been trending toward a little thinner reds. There are times I crave a big red, certain zins or cabs, but I've moved away without really giving it much thought
661. Author: PeckerheadDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 9:00PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
I find the more years I get into this, I have been trending toward a little thinner reds. There are times I crave a big red, certain zins or cabs, but I've moved away without really giving it much thought


Funny you mention that.
It's kinda like cigars, a nice mild/medium one is a really welcome change of pace after bombing your
palate with Tats and other Nicaraguan firecrackers. Ha!
Been smoking Noellas lately and then had an Undercrown shade and it
dawned on me. Need some milder stogies in my mix!

Also, In this hot weather you really don't want (IMO) a big monster heavy red, so wines like this are great. Of course, indoors it's not a huge deal, but if outdoors I gravitate towards citrusy Sauvignon Blancs. New Zealand has some great varieties. Perfect for hot weather.
662. Author: frankj1Date: Mon, 8/21/2017, 9:07PM EST
Peckerhead wrote:
Funny you mention that.
It's kinda like cigars, a nice mild/medium one is a really welcome change of pace after bombing your
palate with Tats and other Nicaraguan firecrackers. Ha!
Been smoking Noellas lately and then had an Undercrown shade and it
dawned on me. Need some milder stogies in my mix!

Also, In this hot weather you really don't want (IMO) a big monster heavy red, so wines like this are great. Of course, indoors it's not a huge deal, but if outdoors I gravitate towards citrusy Sauvignon Blancs. New Zealand has some great varieties. Perfect for hot weather.

yeah, i went the same route with cigars too. Bulked up, damaged my taste buds, came back to just north/just south of medium
663. Author: frankj1Date: Mon, 8/21/2017, 9:08PM EST
wait! are you here to replace me?

The youse will not replace me!
664. Author: PeckerheadDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 9:34PM EST
No worries Frank, you're a stalworth here. I'm just a lowly noob.
665. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 8/21/2017, 9:36PM EST
My tastes in red wine seems to constantly be evolving. I want more integrated fruit and acidity. I have enjoyed French wines for years. Recently I have begun to enjoy Italian wines. Probably the best way to discribe what I am looking for in a red wine is balance. When you find balance you also find complexity. When you notice that French Merlot from Bordeaux in very different than Napa Merlot you are talking about the difference in terrior. Terrior is sense of place. There is a difference in Merlot from the left bank or right bank in Bordeaux.
666. Author: frankj1Date: Mon, 8/28/2017, 6:52PM EST
2014 Lucien Albrecht Pinot Blanc...Alsace
667. Author: shaun341Date: Mon, 8/28/2017, 7:14PM EST
2015 Teyssier Bordeaux I liked it a lot and think it was only $11.99
668. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 8/28/2017, 9:32PM EST
What did you think of the Lucien Albright Pinot Blanc? I like his wines.
669. Author: frankj1Date: Mon, 8/28/2017, 9:53PM EST
I liked it. Coulda sworn I caught a hint of grapefruit.
Had some with grilled chicken wings and cold sesame noodles Saturday night, and with baked cod tonight...paired better the first time but also liked it by itself.
not sure of the correct word but not as "thin" as many whites...?

I will look for more pinot blanc and will search for your Italian suggestions as well.
670. Author: SpeysideDate: Tue, 8/29/2017, 10:54PM EST
Thin, or light are good words to discribe many white wines that lack body. Truthfully you have tried light Alsacian wines so far. They get much richer and heavier. I tried an Edelzwicker (noble blend) at work today that was amazing. It was very rich, almost a glycerol mouth feel. It had lush tropical fruit, pineapple and guava. I'll have to do a review in the wine corner.
671. Author: frankj1Date: Wed, 8/30/2017, 7:54AM EST
a world of whites, as yet limited, has opened for me.
thanks Allen.
672. Author: Arrow_34Date: Wed, 8/30/2017, 10:29AM EST
Michael David Winery
Earthquake Cabernet Sauvignon, Lodi, USA - 2014

If you can find it below $20, buy it! I snapped up about a case for $15 a bottle. It was on clearance and consider it my wine find of the year.
673. Author: PeckerheadDate: Thu, 8/31/2017, 10:42PM EST
Daniel Cohn Bellacosa Cabernet Sauvignon 2014
674. Author: SpeysideDate: Thu, 8/31/2017, 10:54PM EST
2015 Scaia, reviewed it in the wine corner.

Grilled chicken with herbs.
Grilled vegetable kabobs.
Kale tossed salad with poppy seed dressing.
Vanilla bean ice cream drizzled with fig infused balsamic vinegar.
675. Author: frankj1Date: Tue, 9/5/2017, 7:46PM EST
Le Grand Noir Pinot Noir 2015
Limoux, Southern France
676. Author: ZRX1200Date: Tue, 9/5/2017, 10:15PM EST
Ledger David Dark Knight (80% Tempranillo Malbec&Syrah)

Cricket Hill Grand Vin Enchanté (40% Cab Franc 60% Merlot)

Both small locals.
677. Author: StinkdyrDate: Sun, 9/10/2017, 8:31AM EST
Chile 120 Pinot Noir
Of course this is not a great PN, I would rate it about a 5.
But it makes a good cheap base for home made sangria.

Beer
678. Author: deadeyedickDate: Fri, 9/29/2017, 7:24PM EST
1996 Chateau StJean Cinq Cépages

This was rated the #1 wine of the year by Wine Enthusiast in 1997. Wifey and I bought a case months before the rating came out and the price doubled overnight. Still has great fruit, tar and smooth oak after 21 years.
679. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 10/1/2017, 8:16AM EST
2016, Emilio Moro, Finca Resalso Tempranillo, Ribera Del Duero, Spain

Red ripe dark cherry color. Intense on the nose, typical aromas of a Ribera Del Duero can be perceived, such as mature black fruits, blackberry and currant. Subtle oak notes appear in the background. On the mouth it’s intense with lively tannins, but leaves a gentle and mellow sensation on the mouth. Fruit flavors of blackberry, blueberry, and currant dominate. There is a significant amount of spice also. This wine is balanced and has a core of acidity.
680. Author: HockeyDadDate: Sun, 10/15/2017, 6:59PM EST
deadeyedick wrote:
1996 Chateau StJean Cinq Cépages

This was rated the #1 wine of the year by Wine Enthusiast in 1997. Wifey and I bought a case months before the rating came out and the price doubled overnight. Still has great fruit, tar and smooth oak after 21 years.



Cinq Cepages is an outstanding wine as is everything from CSJ. Even their cheapo California label is a great value.

They received damage in the Nuns Fire but did not get burned down as first reported.

Nearby Kenwood Vineyards got near missed and are matching Red Cross donations.

https://www.redcross.org/donate/cm/pernodricard-emp
681. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 10/16/2017, 9:21AM EST
2015, Elk Cove Pinot Noir estate bottling, Willamette Valley, Oregon. Very nice.

Cheese plate
Coq au Vin
Tossed salad, balsamic fig dressing
Apple pie with cinnamon ice cream.
682. Author: deadeyedickDate: Mon, 10/16/2017, 11:53AM EST
1992 Caymus Cab

After 25 years it still has some good fruit but past it's prime. I guess we need to pay more attention to what is hidden in the Vinotemp. These were drinking beautifully last time we had one about 5 year ago.
683. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 10/20/2017, 5:00PM EST
2014 Foxglove Zinfandel
Paso Robles

So far really loving it. Not the big jammy mouthful of zin I fell in love with years ago, more sophisticated, maybe more like a fuller pinot noir?

A steal on sale for $11, must go back for a few bottles, maybe even try Varner's Pinot Noir too.
684. Author: RMAN4443Date: Sat, 10/21/2017, 5:08AM EST
Speyside wrote:
2015, Elk Cove Pinot Noir estate bottling, Willamette Valley, Oregon. Very nice.

Cheese plate
Coq au Vin
Tossed salad, balsamic fig dressing
Apple pie with cinnamon ice cream.

Not much of a wine drinker myself,but apple pie with cinnamon ice creamDrool that sounds pretty good.
685. Author: Plowboy221Date: Sat, 10/21/2017, 7:40PM EST
Yalumba Antique Tawny Museum Reserve
686. Author: Burner02Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:10PM EST
19 Crimes "The Warden."

Excellent!
687. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:45PM EST
2014, Klinker Brick Old Ghost Zinfandel, Lodi, California.

Huge, rich, and dense. A great nose of ripe fruit, red flesh plums, and blueberrys. A slight hint of petrol also. Wonderful jammy flavor of black and red raspberrys. Just a hint of earthyness. Velvety, silky texture. A bold wine that is over the top and completely enjoyable.
688. Author: Plowboy221Date: Mon, 11/6/2017, 6:22PM EST
Stone Hill- Concord
689. Author: Plowboy221Date: Sun, 11/12/2017, 7:36PM EST
Yalumba Antique Tawmy Museum Reserve
690. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 11/12/2017, 8:30PM EST
2012 Weinlaubenhof Kracher Cuvee Auslese, Burgenland, Austria.
691. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 11/13/2017, 8:12AM EST
2012 Murgo brut rose, Sicily, Italy.
692. Author: SpeysideDate: Mon, 11/13/2017, 10:51PM EST
Ramos Pinto 10 year Tawny port, Douro Valley, Portugal.
693. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 11/19/2017, 8:55AM EST
2015, Conundrum white, California.
694. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 11/19/2017, 1:22PM EST
Speyside wrote:
2015, Conundrum white, California.

used to get a bottle every year, sort of forgot about it.
was good for the whole family cuz agreeably sweet...right?
695. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 11/19/2017, 2:04PM EST
No, dry but loads of fruit, orange, peach, nectarine, and apricot.
696. Author: frankj1Date: Sun, 11/26/2017, 6:41PM EST
2015 Decoy Sonoma County Pinot Noir
697. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 11/26/2017, 7:28PM EST
2015, Fritz-Ritter Spatlese Gewurztaminer, Phalz, Germany.
698. Author: SpeysideDate: Sun, 11/26/2017, 11:07PM EST
2014, Jorge Ordonez Victoria #2, Malaga, Andalusia, Spain.
699. Author: seansquaredDate: Mon, 11/27/2017, 8:35AM EST
2014 and 2015 Rex Goliath Pinot Noir. $5.99 and stacks up against far more expensive pinots. Bunch of silver and bronze awards over the years. I tell everyone I run into that enjoys reds to give it a taste.

700. Author: SpeysideDate: Tue, 11/28/2017, 9:28AM EST
2016, Leitz Rudesheimer Magdalenenkreuz Riesling Spatelese, Rhone, Germany.
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