pacman357
Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:22:00 PM
When I trade with someone, I always toss in extras. When someone bombs me, I make sure to return the "favor". In fact, I'm putting together some return fire at this moment.

However, when you win a contest, is it tradition to hit the host back, pay it forward with a contest of your own, or maybe both?

heynow5151
Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:23:00 PM
it's all good, just play nice with others.........
JTokash
Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:52:00 PM
I'm a noob, so take this for what it's worth.

I'd just say to do whatever makes you feel good. If you like to return fire from a contest, go ahead. If you want to have a contest of your own to pass it forward, so be it.

I think that in general, a contest doesn't *require* anything in return. If you win your state lottery, they don't expect you to give them money in return... well they tax you to death... maybe that's a bad example, but I hope you see what I mean.

As for cigars, I doubt anyone hosting a contest would refuse to be hit back, but I doubt that's the whole point.

Be happy! 🙂

Long ashes to ya,

-JT

IUROX
Monday, May 21, 2007 2:08:00 AM
As far as a contest is concerned, I do many and honestly I never expect anything in return. Same with a RAOK! I never expect anything,but as we all know around here sooner or later what comes around goes around! Most everyone here are very generous and its all in good fun!

So most do not expect anything in return but it sure is fun to surprise folks every now and then!

jespear
Monday, May 21, 2007 2:09:00 AM
I have to agree with heynow5151 and JT...

Play nice with others, and do whatever makes you feel good.

Talking to a number of B/SOTL's at CigarFest, I came away with the realization that it's all about the

"giving".

Some of those crazy bastids just get carried away with their "return fire" .

Case in point... heynow5151 and I did a trade a few months ago. He was looking for some JAVAs. I sent him three, and some other sticks (for a total of ten).

For good measure, I threw in a couple of boxes of TASTYKAKES, (a Philly tradition), because it "made me feel good". I guess it made heynow5151 feel good too, because he sent me back just about EVERYTHING in the Drew Estate "Natural" line. And not just one of each...he sends me two and three of each blend, AND a couple of 5 packs for a total of TWENTY-SEVEN cigars!

(Because it made HIM feel good.)

Sorry...I got off on a tangent, but I saw an opportunity to give a fine BOTL some "props" and I seized the moment.

Now, getting back to your original question, I don't think, IMHO, that the originators of these contests are looking for anything in return. It's all about the "giving", with no return fire expected.

jes

andytv
Monday, May 21, 2007 5:02:00 AM
In my opinion, there should be no expectation of reciprocation after a RAOK or contest.....NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

Believe me......it will only sour the whole process for you in the long run.

It is much better to just pass it forward at some other time; or hit the guy back if you are so inclined..........or just thank them graciously and forget about it.......it WAS a gift.

That is MY opinion..........if ya don't like it, please don't send me any smokes.

(I wonder why I don't get sent as many smokes anymore)

burgess_b
Monday, May 21, 2007 6:29:00 AM
agree with andy!
teedubbya
Monday, May 21, 2007 8:29:00 AM
Agree with Andy. I've held contests and have done roaks.

Please no return fire. I did it because I wanted to, not to get something out of it.

No expectations.

I'f doing a trade, box pass or group buy I'll be clear of expectations up front and expect no more no less.

Now if you are ever in my wedding and I pay for your tux yo better pay for my wifes dress if she is in yours 😉

some of you will catch that.

pacman357
Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27:00 PM
Thanks, folks. I don't expect and don't want anything in return for an RAOK or a contest. I just don't want to short someone or fail tradition. I always try to give a little better than I got.

And hey, come to think of it...when was the last time someone did bidness with a lawyer and came out ahead?

:)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

jpotts
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:08:00 AM
Anything I send comes without strings attached. I'm also the type of guy to walk into a fancy resturant in sweats with holes in the knees, and order a Miller Genuine Draft while I wipe my mouth with my sleeve after I fart out loud. So no, I don't stand on ceremony either.

Besides, you in perticular helped Ford pay my rather obscene salary.

Reciprocation is not required. Besides, it'll only be used to futher pound heynow5151. 😉

plinytheelder
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:39:00 AM
TW, I caught that...

That there was FUNNY...

pacman357
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:23:00 AM
#10 I'll pay a contest forward with another contest and a payout.

You, however, are gonna git it.

Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

jpotts
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:46:00 AM
Bastage!
pacman357
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:28:00 AM
"You think I'll let it go, you've got another thing comin'...."

INCOMING!!!!!!!!

J.Redleg
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:48:00 AM
Start with the fork on the outside. And that ring is used for the napkin - it is NOT a sexual stimulating device!
jpotts
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:58:00 AM
^ You know how may resturants I embarassed myself at before I figured that out?

Must be at least 2 dozen...

fbcoacho
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:21:00 PM
in being a FOG....

it wouldn't really matter. The person whom had the contest was "giving away" a package,thus you are doing the same. Now I would say that if you would like to send the "HOST" a small pkg of thanks and explain what you had done with the winnings,even better. IMO

Coach

davey
Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:32:00 PM
I realize I am still considered a noob to many a vet here, and as such my .02 might not carry so much weight, but having said that, I never expect to recieve when it is an unsolicited gift..I suppose to do so would be to not really "give" something away..

Someone once told me " One cannot be gracious to a person that is presumptuous."

Like I said though, what do I know...

cheers