Thunder.Gerbil
18 years ago
Wow. Jen is hanging out with waffle eaters. Poor girl, she's been on a downward spiral ever since Brad "Pancake Man" Pitt dumped her.

She had such a bright future ahead of her too.
wheelrite
18 years ago
Brad is not a Pancake guy.It'a well known fact he is a sissy boy Frnech Toast eater..

wheel..
Cycleman
18 years ago
Thanks why she comes to the WAFFLEMASTER..... to enjoy her Sake....


Gosh, Do I have to spell it out for EVERYONE....


W A F F L E S


RULE ALL!!
burgess_b
18 years ago
i drink sake cold in the summer, hot in the winter. if it sucks cold, it is better warm...if it still sucks, i use it for cooking.

but for pete's sake, NO ICE CUBES! WTF??? make sure stefan (sfraun) does not read this...he'll think you are the type of guy who would put ice cubes in red wine!
gringococolo
18 years ago
I really haven't seen that much warm sake in Japan. Most of the time is is served room temp or cooler, sometimes ice cold. It depends on the type of sake, and time of year.

To me the whole "hot sake" thing is something that has been popularized by Americans eating at Japanese steak houses - more like a gimmick at times.

Im not claiming to be an expert, just sharing my observations.

Gringo
hoyodude
18 years ago
My favorite sushi joint in town has an excellent sake that is served ice cold, my favorite way. It turns out that there are different types of sake which are specifically brewed for it's prescribed serving temperature.

Here's a link that will teach you more than you probably wanted to know on the subject:

http://www.hakutsuru-sake.com/content/02.html 
Sfraun04
18 years ago
24. Author: burgess_b Date: 08/21/2007 10:41 AM
but for pete's sake, NO ICE CUBES! WTF??? make sure stefan (sfraun) does not read this...he'll think you are the type of guy who would put ice cubes in red wine!
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[sigh] When will they learn Brian?
burgess_b
18 years ago
^^they won't, brother...they won't. all we can do is turn up our noses and make sure we give them low quality drinks to soil with their freakin ice!

good to see you around!
R_Wu
18 years ago
according to sushifaq.com:

Hot Sake vs. Cold Sake

Historically, sake was served warm. The reasons were twofold. Firstly, this ancient drink was created before refrigeration and was therefore habitually served that way after methods to chill food and drink were developed. Secondly, sake was also historically a much more coarse beverage, and often took up flavors from the wooden casks in which it was stored. Many off flavors were also a side effect of the fermentation process, which were masked by serving the sake at a higher temperature. More recently, better brewing techniques, more refined strains of yeast and koji, and modern storage practices have created a very different product than in the past. A more refined product does not mean that all sake is the same, however. Just as western wines have subtle differences, so do sakes from different regions and different manufacturers. In general, high quality sake is meant to be consumed cold, while lower quality sake is drunk warm, which can hide off flavors that are created during the fermentation process of the cheaper brands. That said, the peak flavor higher quality sakes can be achieved at subtly different temperatures, different for each brand. To most people, this difference will not be noticeable (similar to the many different kinds of tea, each of which has an 'optimal' brewing temperature). But a general rule is that good sake should be served slightly chilled, but never too cold as many of the subtleties of the beverage may be muted when the drink is too cold. There are a few decent sakes, however, that are meant to be served slightly warmed, and will be labeled as such, and can make a nice treat on a cold winter day, but as a general rule, higher quality sake should be served slightly chilled.

generally speaking, premium sakes (junmai daiginjo/ daiginjo shu, junmai ginjo/ ginjo shu, junmai/ honjozo shu) should always be served at room temperature or slightly chilled (a la chardonnay).
seaborn
18 years ago
^^^ Your going to pay $$$$ for a premium sake, too. Might as well spend it on scotch.


^^^#4. 20 drunk gypsy's. You don't even have to go 45 mph to run them over in a Hummer. With or without the babe magnet. That's niiiiiiccce.
R_Wu
18 years ago
^ a 1.8l bottle of sake has the same alcohol content as a 750ml bottle of scotch and price wise, the entry level honjozo shu (1.8l) costs about the same as the entry level single malt scotch (750ml) or vsop cognac...

so you don't really save money by drinking scotch instead of sake, and besides, the experience, while equally great, are very different.
Sfraun04
18 years ago
I thought the hot sake thing came from our establishing of bases on Asian lands. I was told the hot sake thing was because we would boil it to remove bacteria and impurities since we weren't sure their water supply was clean and efficient.
burgess_b
18 years ago
^interesting. japan is 70% mountain, so that "fresh mountain spring" seems clean. i never thought about it. as a rule, low quality is warmed.
plabonte
18 years ago
Go to a Japanese steakhouse or a sushi place. A lot of them have a Sake sampler. They have different flavors.
Palama
3 years ago

according to sushifaq.com:



Hot Sake vs. Cold Sake



Historically, sake was served warm. The reasons were twofold. Firstly, this ancient drink was created before refrigeration and was therefore habitually served that way after methods to chill food and drink were developed. Secondly, sake was also historically a much more coarse beverage, and often took up flavors from the wooden casks in which it was stored. Many off flavors were also a side effect of the fermentation process, which were masked by serving the sake at a higher temperature. More recently, better brewing techniques, more refined strains of yeast and koji, and modern storage practices have created a very different product than in the past. A more refined product does not mean that all sake is the same, however. Just as western wines have subtle differences, so do sakes from different regions and different manufacturers. In general, high quality sake is meant to be consumed cold, while lower quality sake is drunk warm, which can hide off flavors that are created during the fermentation process of the cheaper brands. That said, the peak flavor higher quality sakes can be achieved at subtly different temperatures, different for each brand. To most people, this difference will not be noticeable (similar to the many different kinds of tea, each of which has an 'optimal' brewing temperature). But a general rule is that good sake should be served slightly chilled, but never too cold as many of the subtleties of the beverage may be muted when the drink is too cold. There are a few decent sakes, however, that are meant to be served slightly warmed, and will be labeled as such, and can make a nice treat on a cold winter day, but as a general rule, higher quality sake should be served slightly chilled.



generally speaking, premium sakes (junmai daiginjo/ daiginjo shu, junmai ginjo/ ginjo shu, junmai/ honjozo shu) should always be served at room temperature or slightly chilled (a la chardonnay).

R_Wu wrote:



Might help some of you.
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