jdobson
  • jdobson
  • Connoisseur Topic Starter
22 years ago
Why do you guys bid these up so much? I know torps are harder to roll and usually cost a bit more at retail, but I notice no difference in smoking one aside from how it fits in my mouth. Then again, I like a nice big cut so I tend to cut off a good amount of the shape.

Anyway, I have noticed that bidding on almost any brand of torps here always seems to be lively.
grond
22 years ago
I use a cigar snip even on the torpedo and take off just enough to get a good draw... so a torpedo is a totally different fell and taste to me because of this. Also, they tend to be on the larger size (typically around a 54 gauge) so they are also a little stronger and it takes more tobacco to roll them as well as a more skilled roller.

If you look on any retail cigar site you will find that the exotic figurado shapes of the pyramid, torpedo, perfecto, diadema and the perfecto all demand a premium price. It is no different on this auction site.
raven01
22 years ago
If clipped just so the draw is good it delivers a more powerful flavor at least thats the general idea.I like the larger ring gauge.
redsquid
22 years ago
I think that cigars would not have the hold on us that they do if their appeal was limited to a few quantifiable attributes. There are so many aspects that appeal on different levels. Aside from taste, smell, mouth feel, and hand feel, there are psychological ramifications as well. Cigars can have loaded social, and status connotations. Some of it is aesthetic, some practical, some completely intangible. I generally prefer perfectos and torpedoes. I tend to 'sip' my cigars, rather than shove them in my mouth. I like the way they look. I like the way they feel when I wave them around when I talk. But then I always felt like a refugee from the Gilded Age anyway. I also have preferences for different vessels for different beverages. Ever drink coffee from a glass, or beer from a paper cup? There are things that shouldn't matter from a logical standpoint but do anyway.
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
My good man...I bid things up, well because I can! I know what I like and I don't want anyone else coming close to it, so I price it out of touch of the novice cigar aficionado. I've been told that I'm arrogant,boorish and snobby but I just pashaw all those ill feelings. What's the use of making money if you can't spend it on something I like!

After I'm done acquiring an airline or a radio station I like to fire up a good cigar. Seeing as how I'm doing that on an almost daily basis...I NEED a lot of good cigars. You should thank me everyday for not buying CI/CBid outright and making them my own personal humidor and jelloshot haven!


















Gotcha! Most people that overbid either don't know the retail or what's a good price to you is to them as a result to the sin taxes they pay in their state. Be patient and don't get caught up in the race yourself! They repeat often.
Ridgerunner65
22 years ago
"Most people that overbid either don't know the retail or what's a good price to you is to them as a result to the sin taxes they pay in their state."
- One suspects that the price paid reflects a plethora of factors. One often mentioned on this board is a common feature of most price-increment auctions: succumbing to the thril of the chase! Another obvious feature is going after something that may not be locally available or easy to acquire from e-merchants. When I analyze my occasional "over"bids on 5/10 packs, I rationalize that I'll pay a premium to sample some product that I might be reluctant to buy blind by the box -- or that even though I end up paying for a box quantity by multiple bids, I'd feel guiltier buying a box. As the most recent cigar boom illustrated, even some savy bidders will pay more than some adjusted fair value for a product because the market has spiralled into foolishness.


In the "spirit" of the above post, I like to get a bargain on fine cigars, but I can't resist firing them up with a Benjamin....
knof7393
22 years ago
What Dr Madd said!
Remember if you get out bid today, it will be back in a day a two. Smoke on!!!

Keith
sketcha
22 years ago
What grond said about the ring gauge, although that's not always the case. A good example is the Black Pearl. The Gran Robusto is nearly identical yet usually goes for less than the Beli.

Another benefit is the control of the draw. Some cigars draw a bit easier than others. Too firm a' draw really sucks, but I don't like too easy a' draw either. I can control the draw by starting out with a short cut, testing and continuing up until I'm satisfied (usually just one or 2 cuts).

Also, torps are easier to cut with a guillotine without them unraveling as you can always leave some cap.

I also prefer toros and robustos. Toros generally have a similar length and gauge to them as torps. Robostos often have a large ring gauge, but are more suited to those times when time is of the essence.
jdobson
  • jdobson
  • Connoisseur Topic Starter
22 years ago
Thanks for the input guys. I asked out of curiousity after seeing so many torp auctions have so much steam behind them. I admit myself that torpedos, pyramids and figurados look cool and I like smoking them. My prefered shape/size is definitely the Toro though. Big and fat but not so long as to to tire of smoking it, and usually without the extra $1 charge for having a pointy end.

Actually, I lied, my favorite size is Egg 😉
0patience
22 years ago
I like the Flor de Oliva Torps.
I don't even bother with bidding on them. I go to CI and just buy them outright, it saves a lot of hassle and I have yet to see them go for much less than retail.
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