halukn
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22 years ago
What's the difference between a Belicoso and Torpedo?
THANKS!
abennett23
22 years ago
cut. paste. answer.

Belicoso - Traditionally a short, pyramid-shaped cigar, 5 or 5 1/2 inches in length with a shorter, more rounded taper at the head and a ring gauge of 50 or less. Belicoso is often used to describe Coronas or Corona Gordas with a tapered head.

Torpedo - A cigar shape that features a closed foot, a pointed head and a bulge in the middle.


halukn
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22 years ago
Thanks, but even though Montecristo No.2 doesn't have a closed foot, it's called a Torpedo???
BMW
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22 years ago
A Beli is above the belt,
A torpedo is below the belt.

Barry
wouldestous
22 years ago
well, the terms belicoso and torpedo are often used interchangably and/or incorrectly. very few cigars are really torpedos using the above definition.
rck_1
22 years ago
LMAO @ BMW

Happy Herf`n
Rob
SteveS
22 years ago
Wouldestous is right ...

Torpedo and belicoso have the same relationship as 'cap' and 'hat' ... they're NOT the same thing, but the terms are often interchangably and incorrectly used.

The fact is, there are almost no hats being worn by men today and very few cigars that are described as torpedos actually are.
ikonoklast7
22 years ago
Ok...here's the way I see it.

There's a sharp difference between what a cigar name is supposed to entail and what it really does.

Anymore, a belicoso is just a cigar with a pointed tip (usually the point isn't sharp, but slightly rounded, but there are exceptions, like CAO's belicosos usually have a sharp point).

The torpedo is much the same anymore, though usually its tip has a sharp point. Also, a lot of people are calling cigars torpedoes which are actually Cuban-style pyramids (big foot that narrows down to a pointed tip), like H. Upmann torpedoes for example.

The real torpedo, as everyone's mentioned, is SUPPPOSED to have a pointed tip and a slight bulge in the middle of it. But anymore, most people don't use the proper terminology.
eleltea
22 years ago
Belicoso - about 6 inches long and a ring gauge of 48 (~3/4 inch) with a pointed cone shaped head.

Petite Belicoso - about 5 inches long and a ring gauge of 40 (~6/10 inch) with a pointed cone shaped head.

Pyramid - about 6 to 7 inches long and tapers down from a ring gauge of 52 (~8/10 inch) at the foot and 42 (~7/10 inch) at the head with a pointed, cone shaped head. Smoking time 45-60 minutes.

Torpedo – varies in length and ring gauge. Has a pointed cone shaped head, bulge in the body, and a relatively flat foot.

All of these are figurados. A cigar that has the same ring gauge at both the head and the foot is called a straight-sided cigar, or a parejo.
ikonoklast7
22 years ago
Hey, sorry to thread-jack, but is there a special name for cigars that have a bottle-necked shaped foot (examples being the La Tradicion Cabinet Series Perdomo Reserve No. 3 or No. 2 or the CAO Cameroon Napoleon).

Are those simply perfectos or is there another name for them?
SteveS
22 years ago
more likely, they'd be figurados ...

here's something I found on the 'Net that might be helpful ...

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Cigar Styles and Sizes
All cigars can be divided into two broad categories by their shape. Parejos, which have straight sides, and Figurados, which include all "irregular" shapes.

Parejos include 3 basic divisions, by the relative proportion of their dimensions. There's Coronas (a broad category including Coronas, Dbl. Coronas, Presidentes, Robustos, and Churchills). All Coronas are characterized by an open "foot" and a rounded "head." Next are the Panatelas. Longer than coronas, these are generally considerably thinner. The third division is Lonsdales — thicker than Panatelas, but generally longer than Coronas.

Figuardos, or "irregular" shaped Cigars are a little better defined. The smallest is the Belicoso — a small tapered cigar with a rounded head (not pointed) and a larger foot. Next are the Pyramids, tapering from a large foot to a small head. A "true" pyramid always has a pointed head. Although many smokers call a large pyramid a torpedo, a "true" torpedo has a large foot, smaller, pointed head, and a slight bulge in the middle. The Perfecto is tapered on both ends to a smaller size than it's straight middle section — a classic "cigar shape". Finally, there's the Diademas, the giant of cigars. These are 8 inches or greater. (hmmmm - does that make the Aliados General a "Diademas-and-a-half"?)

Cigar size names originally specified the exact physical size and shape of cigars. However, after a dozen decades of manufacturers "individualizing" their cigars, these original standards are long gone.
Robby
22 years ago
Steve's got it, just call them Figuardos.
redsquid
22 years ago
You've just got to know what the individual manufacturer considers to be the name of the shape. They all have different ideas, and seem incapable of standardization.
redsquid
22 years ago
You've just got to know what the individual manufacturer considers to be the name of the shape. They all have different ideas, and seem incapable of standardization.
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