^ I concur, that's what I'd try.

BTW if trying another router, be careful about getting one at Fry's. They sell a lot of factory seconds there that are not marked as such, and therefore have a high infant mortality rate. You can return it, but you'll have wasted your time and patience first.

LOL. "selling unmarked seconds" rumor, still persists after a supposed shady deal with some OEM hard disks over a decade ago.

Got any current documentation on that from a credible source? (Bloggers are not considered credible btw, they're no different than anyone here, they happen to have ego complexes that requirre them to spend money to have a website so that people can read their BS).

Okay, you have me there, TG.

However, my personal experience certainly supports the claim. I've had several failed items from Fry's: routers, flash memory, LEDs. Some were bought "on sale," some were not.

So although I freely admit I have seen no documentable evidence, my personal experience with high infant mortality keeps me away from Fry's. That, and their customer service. And I'd still recommend the same to others.

I wouldn't say that your experience necessarially supports the selling of unmarked B-stock (what you are referring to as "seconds" is actually known as B-stock, even C or D in some cases depending on if the manufacturer has a grading system) as this practice is illegal. Both for the manufacturer that distribtes the B-stock as A-stock and the retailer, and the fines can be quite steep.

What your experiences do seem to support though is that Fry's is selling product from manufacturers that have both poor manufacturing processes and innadaquate, or possibly even a near-total absence of quality control on their product.

The latter explanation I can agree with, to some extent anyway. Frys does have a few house brands such as Airlink, GQ = Great Quality, and a few others whose names escape me right now, but I would recognize on a stroll through a store, where the quality can be hit and miss. Sometimes the prodcts are built by different contract manufacturers so the quality of one does not necessarially reflect on the other. Take GQ DVD+/-R's for example: some of them are no-name factories and the discs are only good as coasters, others are Sony 1st grades, hell, I even have a few old GQ 4x's that were made by Tao Yuden back in the day (Tao Yuden IS the **** when it comes blanks BTW).

Furthermore, generally speaking, the quality of low cost electronics has collectively plummeted over the last decade for various reasons, both manufacturing and design. Even the companies that used to make good equipment have gone to hell - sometimes even on the same product that used to be good. Take the Linksys WRT54G line - early versions were good, newer versions are junk. Don't even get me started on DVD players, DVRs and stand-alone DVD-Recorders...

Not all of this can be blamed on Frys - always best to do some research on the item you're buying.

Oh, and lastly, even though a good portion of the returns at Frys are due to PEBKAC, I always recommend that you never buy one of the returned prodcuts that has been re-sealed and marked down unless there is no other option.

you might want to look at your power saver settings. I recommend that you set your computer to never put the system asleep. I have found that if the system does go to sleep, it can cause problems with communication devices.

ok, so after another round of calls to linksys, they offered to send out a new router! should be here in a few days...I was shocked when they offered to replace it, my current router has to be almost 7 years old!!!

Cool.

What model was the old one?

What model was the old one?

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if your cordless phone is on the same wave length as your router that can cause problems, also.

del

old model was Linksys WRT54G... there is a new model out now without the antennas, curious to see which one they send....I won't complain about either one for the cost!

old model was Linksys WRT54G... there is a new model out now without the antennas, curious to see which one they send....I won't complain about either one for the cost!

I thought I would give an update if anyone cares. I got a replacement router from linksys a week ago, called their tech dept. to get it set up and they determined there was a hardware problem with the replacement...so today I received another router and a wireless access point?? No one at linksys could tell me why they sent the access point, so now I have two routers and an access point to send back. Anyhow we got the new router up and running and still had problems with the mac. damnabit!!!!! So I called apple and was told it is $49 for tech help. I ignored that and explained the problem to the guy real quick...and he says reset your PRAM and that should do it. So i looked online and reset the PRAM in about 2 minutes, the laptop has never been faster!!! LOL! all that for a two minute fix.

^ LOL. sorry. I should have thought of that. It is one of the normal try this first things.

jojoc