An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied little.. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great; but when government takes all the reward away; no one will try or want to succeed.

Could not be any simpler than that....

...........maybe thye both missed the class????

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Economics 101

More money than brains!

Getting back to the original post...

The illustration also points out the difficulties of getting out of socialism. I'd love to believe that socialism will ultimately fail, but our collective laziness and need to blame others are pretty powerful forces.

I blame my neighbor, Dave. (Why not? I'm tired of blaming Bush and too lazy to think of someone else.)

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The failure lies entirely in the abject underestimation of the systemic, innate depravity of men (and women, you know, mankind). This is why a socialist apparatus always devolves toward corruption, abuse, poverty, immorality, generally complete failure at every point.

^ very nicely said, and dead on.

Socialism is tyranny.

It assumes that the collective is smarter than the individual, and that the individual's needs should therefore be subjugated to the collective. This is because, if you leave even one loose thread (an individual), the entire tapestry will eventually unravel.

Even the Nazis when they tried to implement National Socialism in its stated form had to eventually back-peddle, and let industry have some autonomy. The same goes for Saddam and Baathist Iraq. The end result of both brutal regimes was that they eventually succumbed to conquest in order to expand, and eventually collapsed due to conquest.

Yet, we have learned and educated people in this country - despite the myriad number of examples that history has provided - that still think a modified collectivist culture can succeed and thrive over the long haul.

There is nothing new or "progressive" about socialism, or with those who carry the banner of this errant philosophy. They are the weak that bow to tyrants and oppressors as a means to save their own skin for a time.

Excellent post Neo.

The Socialism you all are referring to IMHO is totalitarianism Socialism.

At what point does human cooperation become Socialism, and can we have cooperation without Socialism.

Is it bad to pool resources for efficiency, sometimes at the risk of diverse choice? Can we skim a little of our birthright bounty to help keep all our citizens healthy, fed, warm, housed. How much is enough. When does a hand up become a hand out?

I am centrist on these issues. I do not wish anyone be hungry in my country………

But I don’t want them eating better than me. I say feed those grits and cabbage for free, and then fry BACON next door.

As far as the OP example goes, I’m not sure it is relative. The class room is a place of improving minds and the test represents the measure of the students understanding. Of course giving the proof of learning, grades is not something you can share.

You cannot give a worker a check for a job he does not do either. Hell, many would not work. I know some though would work anyway, for their own sake, to define themselves, although hiding the fruits of their labor. But you can give a worker six weeks of unemployment compensation when he is laid off so he is not bankrupt the second week, he can look for work facing an approaching deadline of no more funds. It is a cushion for the family and individual trying to find work, paid for by the workers.

More Insurance than socialism.

Come to think of it what is the difference between insurance and Socialism?

Really none other than wall street just jerked your pants down with one, the government jerks your pants down with the other!

^ "You cannot give a worker a check for a job he does not do either."

Why not the powers that be here call that Welfare & Unemployment

you are also clouding the definition of Socialism "an economic system based on state ownership of capital"

and this is the fatal flaw in all those that think Socialism can prevail...when a microminority own the collectives' assets bad things will ensue.

even worse is communism "The socio-economic system based on such parties' ideologies; A state of affairs perceived as oppressive, overly arbitrary, or totalitarian" which is what you are actually refering to when you state "totalitarianism Socialism"

But there is a faint glimmer of unacheivable hope out there

UTOPIANISM "the political orientation of a Utopian who believes in impossibly idealistic schemes of social perfection" which is impossible with mankinds' propensity for uniqueness, there is no "We are Borg...Resistance is futile" on a grand enough stage to even consider, and when a small group does come close to appearing to achieve Utopia one of two things happens... ATF comes and burns the place to the ground or noone believes it and oucasts the members of said society as being crazy.