dj-destruct
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 6:31:00 PM
I understand the need to let cigars age. But I see that some are aged 3-4 years sometimes even 12 years at the factory. Do these need to be aged? Also Are there any cigars that are good as soon as delivered?
puskarich
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 6:44:00 PM
I dont think there is any serious need for you to age the cigars yourself. I say smoke them now.

Some people (including myself sometimes) do let their cigars rest for a few weeks to a month after receiving them in the mail. Sometimes retailers can store the cigars above 70% to keep them from getting too dry during shipping.

In the end, I think it all boils down to personal preference. You'll probably get as many opinions as the cello on/off debate.

bassdude
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 7:45:00 PM
yep - they are all smokeable now. some just get better with age.

grab a PAM or VSG or any Buc, AF, LPH... and fire it up.

I do have some gars that have a year plus but that happens when you have a bunch.

Robby
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 7:53:00 PM
If you're talking about the Rocky Patel, then it's just the wrapper that's been aged... It never hurts to keep a stick in your humi for a year! Word to the wise 😉
mydsooner
Tuesday, May 4, 2004 8:00:00 PM
Smoked a Rocky tonight.....mmmmmmmmmMMMMmmmmmm

jeezy peezy!

Jeff

gerber
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 7:31:00 AM
I'm sure there are a number of reasons--properly calibrating humidity, taking the edge off younger tobacco, etc.--but in my experience, certain cigars benefit tremendously from a few months or more of humidor time before smoking. At one level, it doesn't seem to make sense for well aged cigars to benefit, but I've become a believer in aging. Many don't benefit ostensibly, but others can change dramatically in their taste profile, burn, and the overall enjoyment they provide (I've had a few that I didn't even recognize as the same cigar after several months). Aging can also make a really good cigar even better--e.g. I've had some Oliva O maduros resting for over a year, and they have gone from great to one of the best cigars I've ever smoked.

Just my 2 cents, but smoke some now and make sure to save a few for later. You might be very pleased with the results.

bassdude
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 7:41:00 AM
I agree with you guys 100%. Lots of gars benefit from age but you should be able to smoke when you buy on any quality smoke.
Steve*R
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:07:00 AM
I think it's important to allow any cigars to stabilize for a few days before smoking them. Most cigars are shipped a bit damp, and need to dry down before smoking them.

Personally, I prefer cigars that I have aged for a few years at less than 70% RH. Cigars are processed vegetation and they do change over time; often mellowing and developing nuances of flavor. While I agree with the statement that age won't transform a pooch projectile into a VSG, I do believe that an aged VSG smokes better, for my taste, than one I've just purchased.

al'Thor
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:12:00 AM
I just wish you could tell when the sick period would be - I haven't been able to tell by smell and some sticks I only have one or two of, so to hit them when they're sick ruins my only chance of enjoying it (until I can get another).
GTofMurphy
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 9:14:00 AM
I just was reading an article on "vintage" cigars and one of the producers stated he would never smoke a cigar that has just been rolled even if aged tobacco is used. He claims it takes 2 years of aging to properly remove the mosture from the leaf and for the cigar to mature.

A good way to check this is to check the fit of the band. If the band is loose, it is because as the moisture level lowers the cigar get a little smaller.

I have heard the norm is for cigars to sit 6 months after rolling.

So the question is : What premium cigars sit this long after rolling and before distribution?

GT

Steve*R
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 9:38:00 AM
GT: It isn't enough for the cigars to sit in the factory cold room for them to age properly. The excess RH and cool temperature often inhibit the aging process.
al'Thor
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 9:38:00 AM
a lot (isn't the king of aging Padron?) but I think there's too many variables to make a blanket statement like that. the 'casa de torano' that I had was fresh rolled (about 10 seconds old) and yum,yum,yum!
puskarich
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 2:44:00 PM
Regarding the sick cigars, if I hear a sneeze or sniffle from the humi, I'll let them rest for a while before smoking them. If they feel a little warm, I'll put a thermometer up there to see if they are running a temperature. If they are, I'll dip the tips in NyQuil, light it up, and then wake up 3 days later with a crazy hangover.
turnberry
Wednesday, May 5, 2004 3:07:00 PM
Quality cigars should be good smokes when you buy them. But aging does amazing things to most cigars. As a case in point....a box of AF858 maddies when new are nice cigars. But leave them in your coolerdor or humi for 2-3 years at 65-67% and I guarantee you it will be a near religious experience.