RICKAMAVEN
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:03:00 PM
A new survey released today indicates the steep challenges facing the Obama administration in selling its health care reform proposals to the American people, as 36% agree that health reform is a good idea while 42% are unsure what the word "idea" means.

The concept of a public option divided those polled, with 35% believing that "public option" referred to actor Eric Dane's recent sex tape.

Among reform opponents, a full 64% said they would approve of a plan only if it included free semiautomatic weapons for all Americans.

The survey also revealed some surprising misconceptions about health in general, with 12% defining menopause as "the break a prostitute takes between customers."

chiefburg
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:05:00 PM
Sounds about par for the course.......:)P
Kawak
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:58:00 PM
#1 90% of what you just said is BS 94.3% of the time because your only using 10% of your brain which has only 3% capacity left. Give or take 1%.
dapperdan
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:48:00 PM
Shalom,

Why do you go against the goad my friend? You and Toby would be the first to be "euthanized" in Obama’s socialized "healthcare for all" scheme. It's Nazi Germany all over again Rick.

You know I love you and your family Rick.

Yeshua Hamashiac LIVES! May the G-D of Israel, the G-D your ancestors served be with you!

Dan

donutboy2000
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:50:00 PM
Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” -- Barack Obama, Aug. 11, 2009
djk
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Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:55:00 PM
^

Exactly why the plan will not be a govt "take over" all the lunatics are afraid of.

donutboy2000
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:57:00 PM
The government will run health care as well as the PO runs.
dapperdan
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:05:00 PM
And that is the obvious DB, it just does not work. So what is the truth behind the lies? Its deep man, Rick’s ancestors, and those Hebrew prophets fore told it all…..it’s coming down!
donutboy2000
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:10:00 PM
Revelations 13:4: And they adored the dragon, which gave power to the beast: and they adored the beast, saying: Who is like to the beast? and who shall be able to fight with him?

5: And there was given to him a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies: and power was given to him to do two and forty months.

6: And he opened him mouth unto blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7: And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And power was given him over every tribe, and people, and tongue, and nation.

dapperdan
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:22:00 PM
Amen brother DB, I’m glad you see it bro!

George Bush senior was the first one to talk about “The New World Order”. Later on and just recently, Henry Kissinger and now BHO. THE NEW WORLD ORDER is here! Just take the chip in your forehead or your right hand and you will be just fine. 666 is NOT A JOKE OR A HOLLYWOOD MOVIE !!!!!!

RICKAMAVEN
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:37:00 PM
dan

my favorite christian along with my daughter in law who has completed my family. both of you bringing joy to my life by merely being near.

i emailed shawn and asked him to say hello. did he or did you know i was thinking about you.

"Why do you go against the goad my friend." i don't know any goad so if i went against the goad, it was unintentional.

both toby and i have been under socialized health care, she for 8 years and me for 12 years. it's called medicare. my personal doctors, and at our ages, we have need for specialists from incontinents

to heart, to knee, to shoulder to brain, and the doctors and we seem to have been able to do whatever is best for our health and well being..

i look forward and hope for everyone to have the same socialized medical insurance, invented by bismark in germany.

the actual complaint of the worker is the insecurity of his existence; he is unsure if he will always

have work, he is unsure if he will always be healthy and he can predict that he will reach old age and be unable to work. If he falls into poverty, and be that only through prolonged illness, he will find himself totally helpless being on his own, and society currently does not accept any responsibility towards him beyond the usual provisions for the poor, even if he has been working all the time ever so diligently and faithfully. The ordinary provisions for the poor, however, leaves a lot to be desired

Otto von Bismarck, 20.03.1884

Health Insurance Bill of 1883

The first bill that had success was the Health Insurance bill, which was passed in 1883. The program was considered the least important from Bismarck’s point of view, and the least politically troublesome. The program was established to provide health care for the largest segment of the German workers. The health service was established on a local basis, with the cost divided between employers and the employed. The employers contributed 1/3rd, while the workers contributed 2/3rds . The minimum payments for medical treatment and Sick Pay for up to 13 weeks were legally fixed. The individual local health bureaus were administered by a committee elected by the members of each bureau, and this move had the unintended effect of establishing a majority representation for the workers on account of their large financial contribution. This worked to the advantage of the Social Democrats who through heavy Worker membership achieved their first small foothold in public administration.

of course bismark was not a nazi, the term didn't get started until

Nazism, officially in German as National Socialism, refers to the ideology and practices of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party or NSDAP under Adolf Hitler, and the policies adopted by the dictatorial government of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945.

Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.

sorry about the lecture friend, but most old people, were it not for social security, would not get old.

the VA is also a government run health care system and in spite of some of it's failings in certain cases, it is accepted and approved of by most veterans.

i hope you and your family are healthy, and grow wiser and prosper.

rick

dapperdan
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:22:00 PM
Thank you Rick, you know it means a lot to me that you consider me, in a small way part of your family, along with Russ’s wife. After all, we have been grafted into the line of David by Yeshua’s Blood.

You’re always free to “lecture” me Rick; you know I have the utmost respect for you. Just remember, you and Toby are on the tail end of what America once was under “freedom” and the free enterprise that paid for it. You were self employed for many years same as me, it has worked for your generation until now. The funds have now run out do to extreme government over spending on both Republican and Democrat sides. I thank God that my mother and my father are both well provided for under their pension plans along with Medicare, but that will not be there for my generation or my children. It just will not, so “our” government must cut “cost” and end “un necessary” medical test. It is an easy way of eliminating those that can no longer contribute to the “system”. Remember that old movie called ‘Logan’s run”, that say’s it all. It is what is coming down, no doubt about it!

Dan

RICKAMAVEN
Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:55:00 PM
12. Author: dapperdan

as i recall, he got away, didn't he.

there is a new logan's run in production for next year. maybe this time the government will get him.

HockeyDad
Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:55:00 AM
Logan was one of the few that got away. The vast majority were renewed.

There was no Sanctuary.

PecanPi1
Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:42:00 AM
I'm getting the runs just reading some of this thread.
RICKAMAVEN
Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:09:00 AM
14. Author: HockeyDad

i would hide among the children where i wouldn't be seen.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:15:00 AM
You're gonna need that beeny hat to cover the bald spot and shave if you're gonna fit in with the kids!

Either that of wear a do-rag and some Ed Hardy pants with an Oakland Raiders jersey.

Stinkdyr
Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:18:00 AM
Step into the Carousel, Hockey Dad. It is your turn.