Just received a letter this morning due to the banning of flavored cigarettes as of tomorrow.

Long story short, after all of the legal wording, it looks like the only difference is the paper wrapping.

paper wrapper = cigarette

leaf or homoginozed wrapper = cigar.

Am I wrong?

can't tell without reading all of the crap.

I would THINK that the differences would be VERY clearly defined...........otherwise a lot of people would be fined and/or have to go to court, etc.

1. Author: JHC

Those closely resemble the statutory definitions that I have read.

cigars have a much larger ring gauge and generally are all hand rolled not machine rolled..............

C

don't think i've ever heard of flavored cigarettes....

nine

Charlie........if I am not mistaken, a lot of "premium" cigars are at least partially machine made (at least bunched).

In MY opinion, the major difference between cigars and cigs is that cigars utilize fermented tobacco and cigs use raw dried.

I was told by a convenience store owner here in Florida that after the first of October, ALL flavored cigars and cigs are being banned from sale in convenience stores and all advetising IE posters, POS items must be removed from the sotres.

Thsi is because of the ads being marketed to kids under 18.......

Author: nine999 Date: 09/21/2009 05:01 PM Reply

don’t think i’ve ever heard of flavored cigarettes....

nine

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Well, they come in all different flavors. The most popular being clove...

... they'll just change the box label to "Cigarillo" and instead of a pack of "White Owl Cloves"...

Dave,

I recall talking to Jonathan Drew about this back when the law was passed and if it could effect Drew Estates, and you are exactly correct, according to Jon, it is the tobacco wrapper that defines a cigar versus a cigarette in this case.

I would suspect that if that barrier ever falls, there will be lawsuits regarding expanding the definitions by the use of chemical flavorants versus natural flavor agents, hand made/machine made, chopped filler/long filler, natural product versus HTL, etc...

RE #9

Yup. Clove cigs are no more according to this law. Only flavoring that was exempted was menthol IIRC.

... if they keep this up ... they won't be pulling in but half of the taxes they were initially with all of the increases and all ... there's a lot of folks that are just up & quitting ... cigaretter sales here in Connecticut have dropped to the point where most convenience stores are cutting back on the varieties they carry ...

... every cigaretter smoker I know has cut their habit in half over the past 2yrs ... quite a few have quit already ...

... so what happens to social security when all of these people start living longer, healthier lives ... ???

When tobacco taxes no longer bring in the appropriate revenue as tobacco is squeezed out of existence, we will raise sales taxes to make up the gap. Problem solved.

RE #13

I don't think the government cares. Smoking has been so vilified that, with the exception of the tobacco producing states, it seems that the government would rather it just didn't even exist anymore.

^ ... they only say that to appease the left-wing voters ... they all know full well that if nobody smoked in America - social security would have been bankrupt over 20yrs ago ...

#9 IIRC, clove cigarettes actually have pieces of clove in them, not flavoring. Been a while since I've seen or heard one being smoked (like 25 years or so), but I seem to recall hearing the pieces pop and crackle a bit.

#12 You are correct.