24. Author: BiggDawg Date: 12/21/2009 04:01 PM Reply
A few things:
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No reputable scientist would ever say "The science is agreed, debate over." (I know you are kidding, jschere1, but it demonstrates the demagoguery of dogmatists like Al Gore.)
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I used to work at a place that developed various deviced for medical research. I used to hear the arguments between the scientists, and they generally got pretty vicious.
Trust me. This kind of crap goes on all the time. I heard name-calling and insults hurled over some minor molality (sp:?) levels in a stupid washing solution; it was that nuts.
A pure and unblemished as you like scientific method to be presented, it doesn't work like you claim. Nor does the scientific community behave in the almost monastic manner as you'd like to present.
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Oh, and you bet Edison followed scientific method in any of his thousands of inventions (including the incandescent lightbulb), as well as penicillin. What you call "random guesses" were but hypotheses being tested. (tomato/to-HAH-to) Would you REALLY suggest that Fleming’s findings (penicillin), published in British Journal of Pathology in 1929, and for which he won the Nobel Prize in Medicine were not scientifically rigorous?
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A while back, maye about 10 years or so ago, there was a PBS special (Frontline?) that did some reserch about the discovery of penicillian. If you can find it, I highly recommend you watch it.
I seriously doubt was was described in that documentary could be classified as a "method."
As for Edison: once more, throwing crap up against a wall to see what sticks isn't exactly what I'd call "scientific" or "methodical."
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Sure, scientific method was used in the various climate change conclusions; but that hardly suggests the method is wrong, only unfinished. To deny investigation moves their proponents toward demagoguery. Proper application of the same method will also disprove the current politically-motivated conclusions (but only if they truly ARE false, of course).
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Unfinished?
I thought we had a "consensus?"
Furthermore, what's going on isn't "investigation." People are making assertions based on computer models that haven't even been verified as matching control conditions. Furthermore, as several climate scientists will point out, these various models don't even take into consideration important things like percipitation.
However, we have these same people trying to pressure peer-reviewed publications to essentially blackball dissenters. All of this is being done so that there is only one accepted theory. much like weeds crowding out the vegtables in the garden.
This isn't Al Gore's doing, this is the present scientific establishment. So, GreenWolf's cartoon is pretty accurate.