Time for some remedial range time.

Ever see Pulp Fiction? It was not that mans time period!

C-WA

damn... and it was probably with a shotgun too 🙂

remind me when my Cigar habit drains my bank account to head to Tennesse for a bank robbery attempt....

count me in, Schmitty

Anyone a fan of Ron White? He has a whole monologue going on about how bad police can shoot. It's funny as hell. This fits perfectly.

First off let me say I love police officers… they put their life on the line for people who for the most part don’t respect them. That being said they don’t get the training they need to be the most effective. And after graduation, it’s almost entirely their own responsibility to continued training.

I’ve worked with police officers in a graduation test called CAPS. Basically it puts them in real life situations with simunitions and I’m playing the bad guy. Usually we out shoot these guys and gals, even to the point where the captain asked us to tone it down.

sad

Sylance,

I have a ton of respect for our law enforcement. With that said I have to agree with you and add.

A lot of officers tend to go for their weapon if rushed tying up both hands. The take down is easier when both arms are pinned against the body. Correct me if I am wrong but the average joe can cover about thirty feet before most officers can draw their weapon.

We need to provide adequate training on an ongoing basis if we expect law enforcement officers to risk life and limb everyday.

Wow apparently I have strong feelings I didn't know about on this topic!!!

C-WA

i live in Knoxville Tn and i believe the cops here are just a bunch of bubba's who can even spell gun.

My ex-brother-in-law took police reserve training and did the simulations. He said even though he KNEW it was staged, and he KNEW the guns weren't loaded, and he KNEW it wasn't a real crook, his heart was still beating a mile a minute.

I can't imagine what it must be like when it is real.

I LOVE the Ron White bit, he is so damn funny. He talks about the brothers in Ohio that were pulled over and got into a firefight with the police, there were 28 shots fired at very close range and no one got hit not even the suburban they were driving. Then he talks about some kid in Detroit who fired eight shots into a croud and hit nine people. Its called "They Call Me Tater Salad" Ron White, check it out.
John L

My department requires us to re-qualify every 6 months with our duty weapons. You get two chances to pass, and if you don't, you leave your gun at the range, and someone else drives your patrol car back to the station for you. Then, you have to come back the next day and try again. If for some strange reason you don't pass that time, you must attend a mandatory 8 hour class where the basics are taught all over again.

As far as judging another officer when he is in a life or death situation, I refuse to do so. You cannot put yourself in his shoes at that very moment. That being said, how can you critique the situation without actually being there? Just something to think about.

-Mark

strick9 (Mark) very well said... hitting paper targets is one thing... dropping a bead on any animal is another thing... but when it comes to human life and it could be yours because someone's shooting back at you, and all hell is breaking lose... You have to be in their shoes...

Hog

and i thought this was another picture of young women in skimpy bikinis.

Police and the Military have several things in common. "We fight like we train" is one. Effective weapons training will imprint into your brain and muscle memory the proper firearms techniques ONLY if you train frequently and consistently. My agency requires a minimum of qualification every quarter but in my opinion that isn't enough. If you fail to qualify, you get one more chance at it. If you screw that up, you lock your gun up in the safe and fly a desk until you get retraining and pass the qual.

When you get in a gun battle, you don't think about what you are going to do, you do what you have trained to do. It's automatic. The more you train, the more you retain and it becomes automatic whether it's a bad habit or a good habit, it's automatic.