andytv
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Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:19:00 PM
Anyone else keep this stuff in their medicine cabinet???

I few people I know who are a little "out there" swear by it......and shared their technique for making it with me.

Their technique was terrible; but I looked into it and made my own setup......with which I can make a quart in about 20 minutes.

I forget the concentration, etc.........but it works wonders for burns, cuts/scrapes, sore throat, etc.

lou2row
Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:42:00 PM
Silver is one of the strongest disinfectants.
rfenst
Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:27:00 PM
I have been seeing silver in some undershirts/ sport-shirts and socks over the last few years.
donutboy2000
Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:30:00 PM
Buy AGQ
jackconrad
Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:46:00 PM
Tried it and found no vale in it
DaQueenBeez
Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:52:00 PM
My son got a nasty burn from a car tailpipe - the hospital gave us silver ointment to keep on it. Healed like a dream - surprisingly fast, too.
pacman357
Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:53:00 PM
I love the stuff. Don't get me wrong, there have been no proven benefits from taking it, as it has not been shown to heal any malady, nor prevent one. However, it can cause argyria if too much of it builds up in your system. Argyria isn't automatically fatal, but it can make you look like a giant smurf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria 

or just for a pic

http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria_man.jpg 

Since I am an incurable smartass, and NOT a physician, I readily appreciate the humor of someone turning himself into a giant smurf for no good reason. I mean...you couldn't even pay most people enough money to do this to themselves, yet every year, dozens of people do so voluntarily, thinking it's some sort of home-brewed witch doctor cure-all.

I don't wish you ill Andy. You seem like a pretty good guy...one of the few around here who seems to be able to carry on an intelligent discussion when you want to, and who doesn't think debating a subject means name calling and throwing crap. I suspect a lot of people here would miss you if you were ever to leave.

However, if you are intent on pursuing this course of non-treatment, I would ask that you please post a pic once you reach the Veruca Salt stage. I haven't had a lot of chances to see people who turn blue after I already knew what they looked like as a different color.

Incidentally, I doubt you'd find many qualified physicians recommending it. The Mayo clinic, among many others, does not, and indicates that in some cases it can cause kidney damage and seizures.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682 

#6 Different thing altogether. In fact, your son may just be a quick healer (aren't most kids?). Your son was likely treated with a cream that included silver sulfadiazine.

The NIH has posted a comment suggesting that such ointments should no longer be considered first-line treatment:

Cole suggests using up to four overlapped layers of paraffin gauze to obviate this drawback.2 Silver sulfadiazine ointment is widely used in treating burns. In the few randomised controlled trials on the use of silver sulfadiazine in the treatment of burns, silver sulfadiazine has always shown worse results than biosynthetic dressings and hydrocolloid.3,4 Despite all this the use of silver sulfadiazine is still recommended. Chung et al have written an article with an explicit title on this type of treatment.5

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC498043/ 

Seeing as you have all that book larnin', I won't go into detail...suffice it to say that colloidal silver essentially is a product that has fine particles of silver floating in it. Something that may be good for us in one form can be quite harmful in another form (and conversely, other forms can be even more therapeutic). Doctors also use to use silver nitrate on burns and cuts years ago, but I haven't seen it used in decades myself.

This is nothing new. In fact, colloidal silver has been around for years. I would think that if it had any therapeutic value, that would have been discovered by now. However, too much of something in the wrong form can be unhealthy. We need copper in our diets, for example, but too much can create copper toxicity, with nasty side effects. If there is an outbreak of certain diseases in my aquariums, the recommended treatment for some of those diseases is copper. However, copper in ionic form works better than chelated copper, and too much of either kind can kill everything in the tank.

I'd look to the chemical form, the history and the literature before putting anything like that in my system. Personally, I'm not anxious to turn into a smurf.

tlf01951@yahoo.com
Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:44:00 AM
Been making it and using it since 1998. Keep silver particles as small as Possible so they don't settle. Best thing for yeast infections and athletes foot, and pink eye. Works just as well on your Pets and farm animals.
pacman357
Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:10:00 AM
Huh. Well, in 46.5 years, I've used it approximately zero times, never had a yeast infection, don't get athlete's foot, and the couple of times I've had pink eye, the doc cleared it up in 2-4 days with antibiotics.

Someone must be sneaking it into my system as I sleep.

andytv
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:49:00 AM
Oh ****.....is this why my balls are turning blue??
andytv
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:07:00 AM
Pacman, I accept your empirical evidence; however I refute your claim that CS does "nothing" based on my own anecdotal experiences.

The most significant case of relief from this stuff I can recall was when I stepped on a piece of lit charcoal.

I was outside and had ignited a "CHIMNEY" full of charcoal with the intent of grilling some chicken wings that I had marinated in hot sauce.

After the charcoal was sufficiently lit, I dumped it into my grill, arranged the grate, and tossed the wings on.

My mother was visiting at the time. She has an odd tendency to "help" with anything I am doing by sitting nearby and reading a book. I think this is weird because it is really no help at all, but mostly because I can sympathize with my mother's idiosyncrasies because I often share them........this one I do not.

The wings were sizzling over high heat and promised to char nicely if properly tended. I was carefully flipping them and moving them about the grill when I stepped (in bare feet) on a piece of charcoal that hadn't made it into the grill. It burned right into the arch of my foot.

I yelped and started jumping around. My mother stopping reading and I asked her to watch the wings while I went inside for first aid.

By the time I had finished running water on and cleaning the burn, all of my chicken wings were charred black and ruined. My mother had added insult to injury.

Well..........the burn was pretty bad. Like most burns, there was mild infection and inflammation around the site; which made it VERY difficult to walk or even put on a shoe.

It was terrible.......I mean REALLY painful.

I remembered the silver solution I had in the fridge and dumped some on the burn.......within an hour, the swelling had decreased and I could walk without terrible pain. And a few days later, I was able to go fishing offshore (hard on the feet) with minimal pain thanks to this stuff.

Since then I have used it occasionally for typical maladies for which you would not normally see a physician........sore throat, cuts and burns, etc.

I feel that it provides tangible positive results when compared to typical OTC treatments.

big chief
Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:44:00 AM
Hi-Ho Silver
teedubbya
Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:19:00 AM
leave the boss' horse alone chief
JadeRose
Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:36:00 AM
What the hell are you people talking about?
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:12:00 AM
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