jetblasted
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:52:00 PM
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teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:35:00 AM
#96 I don't think so, but its a mitigation thing. Until they figure out how it really will be implemented why rtisk it.

If there is a chance when she gets pulled over for speeding, stop and go or whatever a MO DL will not be sufficient, and with the birth certificate fiasco going on in PR she could get caught up in something messy then why mess with it. Don't need the headache. I gaurentee we will not go there until the birth certificate thing is fixed.

Not to mention if she should happen to walk accross the street to my parents neighbors house and talk to their landscapers who I suspect may or may not be legal. Two brown people speaking mexican could be suspect to some idiots (like the ones who ask her if she has a green card from Puerto Rico).

I don't know how this law will be implemented. Neither does anyone else in here. I'm just a conservative person. If I can avoid risk I will. I don't need some stupid legal snafu from an over zeaolus new law complicating my life.

I freely admit it may never happen. But there are many other places I can travel with no such issues.

I'm dead serious. I will not take my family to AZ until this is sorted out.

teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:52:00 AM
And arizona has a perception problem in terms of race.

I thought the MLK thing was crap when the NFL held them hostage. I wish AZ would have sait FU and stuck to their guns.

But some will peice that together with laws like this and draw conclusions I'm sure are not accurate.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:57:00 AM
It's CONTAGIOUS!

Texas is eyeing the legislation that AZ passed.

teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:04:00 AM
And colorado
DrafterX
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:05:00 AM
ya but Colorado is trying to keep those Kansas people out... not the same thing...
DrafterX
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:13:00 AM
actually they mentioned the Oklahoma law was under fire still about the legality of punishing employers for hiring illegals... I have to wonder why.. you can refuse to hire felons or guys that **** their pants but not illegals..??
iqbal
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:19:00 AM
103. az was punished by the nfl who for a long time refused to have the superbowl here thus the state lost reveue from that venue as well as many others.
teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:25:00 AM
then they caved.
edsbar60
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:36:00 AM
Shakira’s coming to AZ! She’s Colombian, too and she’s hot!
iqbal
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:41:00 AM
after the gov was impeached.

TW - this law is the same as the feds' and realy isn't that bad. the problem with it is the enforcement by local LE without fed guidelines and funding since it is a fed issue. i think it also won't hold since the feds don't want multiple state laws on immigration that all differ.

iqbal
Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:42:00 AM
ed........i'd like to check her pappers!
teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:26:00 AM
iqbal it is not the same as the feds from what I can see (looking at it now).

even if it was the devil is in the detail... the implementation.

And we will not be in AZ anytime soon. My folks can come here to visit us.

teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:32:00 AM
you see you can argue

"Police may, without a warrant, arrest a person if there is probable cause that the person is an illegal alien or is a legal alien not in possession of registration documents that the person is required to carry by federal law"

is really just the same as federal law. but that is semantics.

while a legal alien may be required to carry said documentation, a full fledged us citizen does not have to (Puerto Rican).

"probable cause that the person is an illegal " is also a sticky wicket.

As I said before, I do not know how this will be implemented (nor does anyone in here). But my danger will robinson alert goes off at much of the verbage in the bill. Especially given the emotion and political sentiment behind it. Sometimes good intentions bring bad results.

I also truly beleive much will be found unconstitutional at some point but by that time the political pop will already be recieved by those pushing this. It will be a win for them either way.

teedubbya
Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:35:00 AM
I suspect many in here would also not recognize the issues with requireing an "intelligence test" to vote.

history and the courts have already looked at these types of solutions

myash07
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:25:00 AM
"We don't give service to gringos from Arizona," was the phrase some Mexico City taxi drivers painted in white on their rear windows.