dmjdc
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21 years ago
In the Senate debate itself, Kerry, rather than embarass Vietnam by demanding the truth, launched a highly publicized diversionary investigation of the POW/MIA families and activists, who were demanding an honest accounting.

Kerry labeled them "professional malcontents, conspiracy mongers, con artists, and dime-store Rambos" who were only involved in the POW/MIA issue for money.

Pictured left, Sen. John Kerry in Hanoi seated under a bust of Communist Vietnam's deceased leader, Ho Chi Minh.
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uncleb
21 years ago
DMJ- Facts are a terrible thing to waste aren't they?

The quote you attirbute to Kerry above was actually a quote by Republican John McCain during a 1994 Senate debate.

Go to this link to get the REAL facts.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/connelly.asp 
dmjdc
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21 years ago
Sad, I suggest you get your facts straight unc.. cause both Barbara and David P. Mikkelson the originators of the website you are referrencing have been proven to have lied about that quote. John Kerry did say it! BTW, you don't HAVE to believe me, but I offer that you shouldn't believe EVERYTHING you read on websites either.
uncleb
21 years ago
DMJ,

You are correct, I should not believe everything i read.

I am making an effort to ensure that what I posted is correct. So far I have found 2 links which refences that:
"MCCAIN ROSE TO HIS FEET AND, OFFERING NO REBUTTAL EVIDENCE OF HIS OWN, PROCEEDED TO CHIDE "THE PROFESSIONAL MALCONTENTS, CONSPIRACY MONGERS, CON ARTISTS AND DIME-STORE RAMBOS WHO ATTEND THIS ISSUE." THE RESOLUTION PASSED, 62-38."
http://www.nationalalliance.org/bits/naf2000/000506.htm 
http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/schanberg_mccain.html 
http://www.greasyonline.com/tfo/pow_part2.php 

I have also found the below statement referencing the congressional record of McCain's speech but was not able to access the actual document (No Password)

"Moreover, Kerry never referred to anyone as "professional malcontents, conspiracy mongers, con artists and dime-store Rambos". This phrase, in fact, was uttered by Sen. John McCain during Senate discussion of normalization of relations with Vietnam on Tuesday, January 25, 1994. Moreover, McCain was not referring to the families of POWs and MIAs when he spoke. Rather, he was referring to mercenaries and other snake-oil salesmen who had been conning the families of MIAs out of money, claiming they would go to Vietnam and track down missing soldiers. McCain's actual statement was:

Joint Task Force personnel have, often at great risk to their own welfare, crawled through some of the worst and most remote terrain in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos, searching for any clue as to the fate of our missing. Their efforts have been dismissed as a charade by many POW/MIA activists who_unlike my friend, Senator Smith, whose opposition is honorable_cloak their opposition in character assassination. In truth, JTF personnel are responsible for locating more information, for resolving more of the mystery surrounding this question than all the professional malcontents, conspiracy mongers, con artists, and dime store rambos who attend this issue have ever or will ever contribute collectively. They are truly unsung heroes.

Everyone involved in our efforts in Vietnam will testify to the greatly increased cooperation from Vietnam. It is their word, not mine, nor Senator Kerry's that Senators should listen to as they consider our amendment. Everyone of these fine individuals believes that the time has come to lift the trade embargo against Vietnam. They recognize that the accounting process has not and should not end, and that there is more cooperation we will require from Vietnam before our efforts can conclude. But they feel, as do I, that lifting the embargo will facilitate and accelerate that cooperation.
(excerpted from Lexis Nexis Congressional record, 103rd Congress, 2nd session, 140 Cong Rec S 130)"

From everything I have found so far, this quote was made by John McCain, not John Kerry, but I will continue to search.




RDC
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21 years ago
Kerry is a traitor and should never have been alowed to hold any public office. The criminal now wants to hold the highest office in the land. What amazes me even more are the blind, clueless or what ever that actually think a traitor as President is a good thing.

Vote Bush!
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Burky4467
21 years ago
Any Ass Clown the Democrats put up there will get the democratic vote. People stay within their party even if it is for a flip-flopping, commy, traitor like John Kerry.
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Charlie
21 years ago
The man was/is a traitor!

Charlie
Jdllizard
21 years ago
He is in the Viet Cong War museum as a war hero, HE IS A FUGGIN WAR HERO TO THE VIET CONG, and people want to vote for this ass bag for president? At least Hanoi Jane apologized.
John L
pabloescabar
21 years ago
the man is a traitor, but only in America can you be a traitor than be president, only in America can you be a draft dodger bill than become president, only in America can you be forgiven and not be killed for these treasonous act's than become president, only in America...
CWFoster
21 years ago
jdlizard, Hanoi Jane did NOT apologize, as far as I know! The VFW, DAV. and other veterans groups were holding protests on the location of one of her last movies and they were asked what it would take to make them quit. they said an apology would be nice. So she said "I'm sorry if anyone was offended by my actions" Now I don't know about you, but I can be sorry all day long about you taking offense to me bad-mouthing your momma, but not be the least bit sorry about bad mouthing her in the first place! So she just said she was sorry they took offence, not for what she did.
JonR
21 years ago
kerry is a damn card carrying commie pinko and it's a fact that 87% of liberals are card carrying commie pinkos. In hollyweird to get a job in the movies you first have to be registered to the communist party and then have sex to michael moore.

JonR
Double D
21 years ago
And to think, this traitor may soon be the Commander-In-Chief of the USA.

God help us all!!

DD
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