"i like the idea of a parent teaching a child about birth control when her hormones begin to flair up"

and what about when HIS hormones begin to flair?

^Rick

"i like the idea of a parent teaching a child about birth control when her hormones begin to flair up."

Are you saying the Palin's neglected to educate their daughter about unprotected sex???I highly doubt it......anyone who's even made a half-assed attempt at raising a daughter in the last 50 years has covered this subject more than once with them.

Rick.....what I'm trying to get you to understand is those of us who raise our children conservatively do not always get a perfect final product..........at least til they've had an opportunity to mature.In many cases children in the teen years are quite rebellious to any parents ideas........as they grow and mature most do blossom.I have a 26 YO daughter who in the last 2 years has done just that.

I am sure your children were/are perfect......therefore it's ok for you to assault other peoples child rearing abilities.

Ron

^lluvia

It's different with little boys.........they go out in town you've only got one pecker to worry about.A little girl goes out in town..........literally hundreds of them to concern you.

All kidding aside........little boys need to be taught restraint/safe sex practices as well.

Ron

180. I thought you brought up a good point in the other post, Gene, and that is why I responded:)

And of course you make a good point about abstinence, but do you really think the majority of unmarried adults (and teens for that matter) are practicing abstinence? I wish I could say that more of us did/do

It's an ideal I hope we swerve back to, but it isn't reality. And in the meantime, children are being fathered.

From youth we are taught, some at home and by popular culture, that as long as you use birth control [and for some of us, are in a committed relationship] that sex is part of the deal...

Will I teach my children differently? Yes, and I hope successfully. Are most American young men and boys given the example of honor, respect for women's virtue even when she doesn't believe in the concept, and encouraged to practice abstinence rather than glorify lust or passion? To the same degree that girls/women's "virtue" is encouraged to be preserved? I don't think so. And most will not live that way in adult relationships. Few men or women are virgins when they get married anymore. It's just a reality that won't change by way of "should". Deeper conversations and love for those who don't get to have those conversations with role models will do more imho

"All kidding aside........little boys need to be taught restraint/safe sex practices as well."

--Ron

I do too. Except my point is safe sex and extra contraception does not always prevent pregnancy. It just doesn't. Used properly, it still can lead to pregnancy. So greater awareness of that fact needs to be made clear and greater weight given to the restraint lesson.

...not that either sex is a victim when it's mutual consent...

re 180

"abstinence" uh oh, I didn't mean to imply abstinence was the only way to avoid to "...avoid getting pregnant..." when "Passion gets the best of us..."

159. Author: HockeyDad

Do you think that any part of the abortion process and/or actual procedure caused her to become so depressed from her psychiatric depression?

(Sure hope she is OK!)

Let's not forget whats gonna happen during an abortion , a living human being is going to be terminated.

I can't and won't interfere with that, but i will never excuse it away or condone it .

I think the story makes a good point, jack

a young gal recently told me her sis was pregnant and went to get an abortion...the tech told her she had twins although she said she wasn't supposed to tell her

she has two beautiful little girls now with big blue eyes

Use the service entrance. Problem solved.

^or the loudspeaker.

I'm fine with outlawing abortion, as long as we outlaw all forms of subsidizing single mothers, including both welfare and child support payments from fathers.

This approach gets government out of our lives, with the free market letting each child determine his or her own future. They will learn thrift and industry from day one.

wow