daveincincy
Monday, October 4, 2010 5:37:13 PM
Somewhere I'm sure I have a "before" pic, but this is the "in progress" pic. What was once a pond completely overtaken by cattails/reeds, with maybe 1' of mud/water in it, is now partially filled with water. We had it bulldozed and cleaned out. We stopped filling it (via hydrant) due to the fact it's taken about 130,000 gallons, and it's only about 2 - 2.5 feet deep (not sure if it hits 3' deep anywhere). At the center of the pond, if it were filled to the top, we estimate it would be about 7.5 - 8 feet deep. Mother nature is gonna have to fill it the rest of the way...we hope. And we hope there is not a leak in the pond (i.e. crack in the rock and floor of the pond)...which is another reason to stop filling it for now. We hope to stock it someday, and make a nice little fishing hole for the kids, as well as make it something enjoyable to look at from the house. The wildlife (i.e. deer, etc) were probably wondering WTF was going on with the pond...no more watering hole. This Sunday about 12 - 15 turkey took off down the hill from the pond when we pulled up.

There's another pond on the back of the property that was dozed as well. It's about 6 - 7 feet deep now if it ever fills up again. Before the cleanout, It looked like it was about 2 - 3 feet deep when it had water in it, but you couldn't see the bottom due to all the debris in it (i.e. leaves, etc), and algae, moss, etc. The dozer pushed a LOT of clay/mud out down to the rock. It's too far back to fill through our own efforts. So for now the boys have found a way to enjoy the emptiness by riding their dirtbikes down one side, getting some speed, and jumping out of the other side. 🖐 Good times. Farm pond (Small).JPG

andytv
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 9:33:45 AM
Looks great Dave!!!

It's cool to have a pond.

Two things I'd think about though.

1) Perhaps an overflow pipe would be a good idea...............so if you get massive rains the banks don't wash out.

2) If you have the ability to get electricity down there; think of maybe putting in a pump to spray water (or a fountain) so that you can keep the water aerated and cool in the summer when the rain is slow. A shallow pond like that might heat up in a hurry and kill your fish.

Also............you might be able to avoid what I am dealing with now by planting some type of heavy ground cover all around that will choke out briars.

daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 9:47:49 AM

Looks great Dave!!!

It's cool to have a pond.

Two things I'd think about though.

1) Perhaps an overflow pipe would be a good idea...............so if you get massive rains the banks don't wash out.

2) If you have the ability to get electricity down there; think of maybe putting in a pump to spray water (or a fountain) so that you can keep the water aerated and cool in the summer when the rain is slow. A shallow pond like that might heat up in a hurry and kill your fish.

Also............you might be able to avoid what I am dealing with now by planting some type of heavy ground cover all around that will choke out briars.

andytv wrote:

1. An overflow would probably be a good idea. We don't have that, but there are 2 areas dug out to channel water to the pond as it rolls down the hill. If you look closely, you can see them flowing in from the top left and the top right, behind the trees leading to the top mddle of the pond (where the hose is filling up the pond).

2. Aeration is definitely on the list. Either a fountain, which would look nice, or a bottom aerator. The shallowness around the edges is a concern. It was suggested that we try and dig up the banks and make them steeper. Steeper banks help prevent algae, cattails, etc from growing versus shallow sloping banks where the sun can penetrate easier. Making the banks steeper would be a lot more work since the dozer pretty much scraped all the way to rock. We'll just have to treat the pod periodically with chemicals that are safe for fish and other wildlife. We have some chemicals that we already used in another small pond that was not drained but had a ton of algae and other stringy stuff growing in it.

We'll be picking up a few 50lb bags of rye/fescue to plant around the pond and anywhere that was dug up by the dozer.

jackconrad
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 11:49:32 AM
RESCUE WARD FOR POOL FISH ???
TrishS@CigarBid
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 12:29:24 PM

Somewhere I'm sure I have a "before" pic, but this is the "in progress" pic. What was once a pond completely overtaken by cattails/reeds, with maybe 1' of mud/water in it, is now partially filled with water. We had it bulldozed and cleaned out. We stopped filling it (via hydrant) due to the fact it's taken about 130,000 gallons, and it's only about 2 - 2.5 feet deep (not sure if it hits 3' deep anywhere). At the center of the pond, if it were filled to the top, we estimate it would be about 7.5 - 8 feet deep. Mother nature is gonna have to fill it the rest of the way...we hope. And we hope there is not a leak in the pond (i.e. crack in the rock and floor of the pond)...which is another reason to stop filling it for now. We hope to stock it someday, and make a nice little fishing hole for the kids, as well as make it something enjoyable to look at from the house. The wildlife (i.e. deer, etc) were probably wondering WTF was going on with the pond...no more watering hole. This Sunday about 12 - 15 turkey took off down the hill from the pond when we pulled up.

daveincincy wrote:

We have a nice-sized pond on our property too. It was neglected for years from the look of it because its filled with algae, leaves, tree limbs, etc. Looks really bad (although the dogs LOVE swimming in it :-& ) It already has an overflow pipe and it looks like they were considering putting some electric over there. But right now it looks nasty!

My husband and I never though of bulldozing it to clear it out. I'll have to talk to him. He wants to get something like that to do some other work on the property. Thanks for the pic and the idea Dave.

grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 12:53:40 PM
Overflow should be fine if you have good srass on the bank. But Andy has a good point. Might as well do it now on the low side while it is all torn up.

I have 2 ponds and a sewer lagoon here. One pond is full of catfish and they keep it all muddy. The other has bass in it but its much smaller.

I do need to make my sewer lagoon a bit bigger... It over flows if we get alot of rain.

grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 12:54:20 PM
Oh BTW pigs will seal a pond.....

Nice pond tho.... Dont put that blue crap in it to make it pretty.....

daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:03:54 PM
This pond (in the picture) always held about 1' or so of water, but that was becuase it was so overtaken by cattails the water never evaporated, and it was more like a swamp. The pond was literally covered edge to edge with them. The dozer probably pushed out 1' or so of clay and muck that the cattails were growing in.

The pond in back looked pretty nasty too, like you describe. Leaves, sticks, limbs, and trees laying (and sort of growing) in it. And once it got hot out the pond scum just flourished over the entire pond. It was hard telling how deep it was due to the leaves, but it probably had about 2 feet of water and about 3 feet or more of muck and mire that the bulldozer pushed out. We watched, and the only living things we saw come out of it were 2 snapping turtles. No telling how old they were. I'd clean your pond out before putting any chemicals in to treat and clear it up. We bought our chemicals from a local fish hatchery that stocks ponds and sells products for small and large pond management/maintenance. The chemicals aren't cheap. We got 3 different types. I forget the brands, but one is to spray on cattails...it's like RoundUp but safe for aquatic animals. Another is that stuff you put in ponds to make it bright blue (you can also get black). I always thought that stuff was simply for looks, but the color actually acts like sunscreen to prevent sunlight from penetrating the water making unwanted plants/weeds/scum to grow. The third chemical was to kill existing algae, scum, etc, and the main ingredient/chemical in that is copper. Copper is used to kill common types of algae, etc in a pond, but depending on what is growing in your pond copper may not be the right chemical.

daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:08:19 PM

Oh BTW pigs will seal a pond.....

grmcooper wrote:

Huh? 🤔 IF it turns out that there is a leak in the pond, the next step was going to be to put down a layer of bentonite. According to a previous owner of the house/land, the pond was full of water until a slight tremor hit and cracked the rock (somewhere) in the pond. The pond was empty within a few days. This happened a long time ago. We're hoping there is no crack, and if there is, we're hoping the dozer helped seal it somehow...even though he pushed out all the clay.

Nice pond tho.... Dont put that blue crap in it to make it pretty.....

DOH! (see above reply...wouldn't do it to make it purdy)

grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:14:06 PM
They say around here if you put pigs in the pond it will seal it up..... Dont ask me man I'm a MO transplant.8-[
daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:16:29 PM
Interesting. I'll try not to read too much into it. :-"
grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:16:58 PM
😳
DrafterX
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 1:41:32 PM
dead cats work well too.....🤣 but the bentonite should do the trick....
grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 2:03:06 PM
Send me some of that hay!
daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 2:06:59 PM

Send me some of that hay!

grmcooper wrote:

Hay? 🤔 You referring to the "hay" up the hill in front of the house? That would be the garden that never grew. LOL You're looking at weeds. However, behind me (from where I'm taking the pic) are about 12 - 14 rolls of hay...not sure how to ship it, but if you're in the area...

grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 2:08:22 PM
🤦 The garden looked like round bales of hay
grmcooper
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 2:11:10 PM

Hay? 🤔 You referring to the "hay" up the hill in front of the house? That would be the garden that never grew. LOL You're looking at weeds. However, behind me (from where I'm taking the pic) are about 12 - 14 rolls of hay...not sure how to ship it, but if you're in the area...

daveincincy wrote:

Ummmmm I think my little truck could haul 14 bales of hay.......😛

05busa
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 3:42:33 PM
Got turtle food??
daveincincy
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 3:48:07 PM

Got turtle food??

05busa wrote:

I dunno. I don't have any turtles, but we have a small pond that is loaded with frogs.

05busa
Tuesday, October 5, 2010 3:52:31 PM
Got fish in there yet??