daveincincy
15 years ago
Maybe the video is out there somewhere, but I heard the audio on the radio yesterday when *ahem* Nancy *gag* Pelosi (sorry...just saying the name makes me want to throw up a little) was talking about the debate going on with the "Bush" tax cuts. She wants to extend unemployment, not cut taxes, and she made the comment that (paraphrasing a bit) "helping the rich doesn't create jobs, paying unemployment does." ๐Ÿคฆ HOLY CHIT...did she really just say that?

I just found the quote....

"We have to pay for unemployment insurance, we don't have to pay for tax cuts for the rich," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. "Tax cuts do not create jobs. They haven't throughout the Bush administration. Unemployment insurance creates jobs and does not add to the deficit."



She goes on to say...

"To those who are standing in the way of this extension, I say: the time to put politics aside is here. The welfare of millions is at stake," she said. "If Congress fails to act on an extension of the UI program 2 million Americans will lose their unemployment insurance by the end of the year. And millions more could join their ranks in the coming months. As a nation, we simply cannot let this come to pass. Politics should never punish those who need help most, and it should never get in the way of sound policy. Congress must pass this important extension. Americans โ€” all of them โ€” are depending on it."



JEEZUS....correct me if I'm not understanding the point she is making, but does she consider sitting on your azz collecting unemployment a JOB?!?! Apparently that's what some [unemployed] Americans consider a job. We try to find people jobs everyday, and people turn them down because they still have unemployment coming, and they keep extending it. Therefore, people continue sitting on their azzes. When do they start looking for a job?? They start looking right when unemployment runs out. Hey...why you looking for a job? "Well, my unemployment ran out...." ๐Ÿ˜ฃ
OldSchool
15 years ago
Two reasons for making these ridiculous statements

1. Liberalism is a mental disorder
2. Botox leaking into the brain
ZRX1200
15 years ago
The Lib talking point (I guess, my local news ran it...) The money is immediately spent. Grocery stores Christmas shopping....etc.

Kinda like when she said the food stamp money for every dollar spent is worth $1.79........Only in CA could she get elected.
daveincincy
15 years ago
It's not like they (the people spending unemployment funds) are doing it just to stimulate the economy or create jobs. ๐Ÿค It's called "survival."

Nancy must've ate paint chips as a child. ๐Ÿคจ
dsmokers
15 years ago
You're both morons and the only wish I extend to you is that you both lose your jobs, house, car, and retirement within the next year. I don't want you to lose everything, just all that you hold dear, and a bit of your arrogance and pride. Start over and see if you're a bit more intelligent regarding the struggles of MANY Americans right now. Good luck to you both.
DrafterX
15 years ago
I wonder how people survived when unemployment benfits were only 12 weeks..?? prolly all just gave up and stuff... ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ
daveincincy
15 years ago

You're both morons and the only wish I extend to you is that you both lose your jobs, house, car, and retirement within the next year. I don't want you to lose everything, just all that you hold dear, and a bit of your arrogance and pride. Start over and see if you're a bit more intelligent regarding the struggles of MANY Americans right now. Good luck to you both.

dsmokers wrote:



Bitter much?

When someone continues to turn down work because unemployment keeps getting extended, what's their excuse? I understand not everyone on unemployment is doing this, but it happens A LOT. I'm sure there are countless many who do this either because they don't want to work or maybe unemployment may be paying a little more than the job they could take. Government needs to do something to encourage business to grow/hire. Right now they are encouraging people to sit around unemployed and doing more things to discourage companies to hire. COMPANIES DO NOT HAVE ANY FAITH IN THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT OR THE ECONOMY.

By the way, how low does one have to get in order to wish ill upon others?
snowwolf777
15 years ago

You're both morons and the only wish I extend to you is that you both lose your jobs, house, car, and retirement within the next year. I don't want you to lose everything, just all that you hold dear, and a bit of your arrogance and pride. Start over and see if you're a bit more intelligent regarding the struggles of MANY Americans right now. Good luck to you both.

dsmokers wrote:




D-smoker - What makes you assume the people you wish ill upon because they voice an opinon different from yours haven't struggled in the past? That they haven't had a period of unemployment, and maybe had to sell something, or maybe even lost nearly everything because of a job loss and had to start over?

You also seem to operate from a position that anyone who is doing OK right now is doing so only because they are "lucky", and anyone who isn't is solely because they're "unlucky".

And you still haven't told us how much Soros pays you per week.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
Strolling in the woods barefoot and bitter is no way to spend your life.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
^ and growing hemp.

Getting off the grid is ok though. But exspensive on a "retired" male/stew income......

Sigh.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
we probably still have jobs because we are fat white racists that watch Fox news.....

Sarcastic olive branch.
Lumpa
15 years ago
Extending the CURRENT TAX RATES (Since when did the absence of an increase = cut?)
to ALL vs Not Extending it to anyone w/ income >$ 1million/ yr
Assuming all things equal (we'll get into that in a minute),

would increase revenue collected by $700 million.
You really wanna risk further economic downturn over chump change like $700 million?!

BUT

Who makes more than $1 million per year?

Sure, the list includes:
Wall St types & some CEOs
Movie, Rock, and Sports Stars
Really good doctors and Lawers
A bunch of the people we all like to vilify.

But a lot of these millionaires are people who own small to medium businesses.
Distributorships
Small niche manufacturors
Maybe a half dozen gas stations or donut franchizes
specialty professional consultants

DSMokers -
These are people of the community.
Many of them will only ever make the good money for a year or two.
And THEY PROVIDE JOBS!!
You think some of them won't retire, sell out, or just shut down?
Why should they bust their asses and continue growing their business if the rate of return just got cut in half?
Picture this: "last year I kicked ass and grossed 1.3 million. But after taxes, I only made a little bit more that the year before when I grossed 950. I may as well have just settled back and collected my 950k instead"
It can be a drastic disincentive, creating a cutoff point after which there is little marginal return on additional effo

wow
I just had a flashback
My first day in my new job as a roofer, back in the day.
We were ripping off old roofing.
About 11:00 the guy who seems to be knida the second banana of the crew comes up to me, and quietly says "slow down. were milking this job, plus you might piss those guys off if you make them look bad."

But I digress:
Why do you hate the people around you?
Why don't you want your neighbors to get the jobs provided by our hardworking american hero entrepreneurs?

Why is it hard to understand that we need to get back to the American Way of growing the size of the pie instead bickering over it's (re)distribution, as while we fight over crumbs things get worse and worse.
dsmokers
15 years ago
I'm not bitter. A couple of you seem to think that all people on unemployment (well, not all, but most, or a great deal as is mentioned above after second thought) are lazy and stealing your money. I say you're full of crap.
chiefburg
15 years ago
Yep, I hit it pretty low at one time. I went to the unemployment office once and decided I couldn't just collect money for nothing (a personal thing with me). I did the last thing I wanted to do - join the military. But, it put food on the table and that was the goal. And, I did end up selling nearly everything I owned to include personal wedding gifts, furniture, stereo's, tv's (didn't have one for years), guitars, dishes, and my plasma..... Sometimes ya gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

As a child myself, I remember only having bread and milk and nothing else to eat. We couldn't even buy toilet paper - had to use newspapers, rags, and whatever we could get our hands on. But, I think this made me appreciate what I did have and I take NOTHING for granted and am thankful for every little thing I have. Hell, I was 40 before I stopped pulling nails, straigtening them, and reusing them.....rusty ones too......I know many of you have been there yourselves..... I just think it's part of being free - freedom isn't always fun and games.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

I'm not bitter. A couple of you seem to think that all people on unemployment (well, not all, but most, or a great deal as is mentioned above after second thought) are lazy and stealing your money. I say you're full of crap.

dsmokers wrote:




You're free to say whatever you want to. Your words give you away though.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
^ did you snopes that?

Look. The problem is they keep treating the symptom not the disease. Regulation and taxation have created a anti-business climate, so no jobs.....period.

So if the Govt. Doesn't get the F outta da way, what......extend to lifetime? Some would like that.
chiefburg
15 years ago
I have no problem with large coorporations tax breaks. These coorporations create millions of jobs which does more for the economy than taxing the hell out of a coorporation. Frankly, it's simple economics and I don't understand why people don't get it. Our free enterprise system has to have people at all levels for the economy to work.

People badmouth Walmart all day long. Frankly, Walmart employs thousands upon thousands of people who couldn't get jobs elsewhere. While many think they are ripping their employees of, they are creating jobs, cutting prices, and providing a valuable service. They are expressing free enterprise in it's truest form. Of course, others want them to unionize which will shut down Walmart in most places and raise the cost of goods to where no one wants to shop there.

dsmokers
15 years ago
DMV would you like to add anything of value, or are you going to just continue screaming "ghost" every post? Take a pill, and calm yourself, boy.


Chiefburg, that is a great story and thanks for sharing that.

Times are changing, so is the economy and the drivers that steer it. Oil based is becoming organic based, and the whole thing is shifting. It'll be a fun few years and the survivors are going to be tested. Those that think they have it sussed are in for a change they are not ready for. Keep your eyes on it, it's going that way. They fun is JUST starting.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

DMV would you like to add anything of value, or are you going to just continue screaming "ghost" every post? Take a pill, and calm yourself, boy.

dsmokers wrote:




OCD ALERT!!!
dsmokers
15 years ago
Again, anything of value to add, or do you need to go sit in the corner and drool again?
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