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DrafterX
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15 years ago

#21

I am in Topeka right now. When I drive by their compound later this afternoon I will express all of your love to them verbally and with a nice physical gesture. Any (legal) ideas.

teedubbya wrote:

show them your tits!!! 🤣

jojoc
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15 years ago

#22

These last three paragraphs is where I think the courts went wrong.
The timing and place of their hateful assault has EVERYTHING to do with Snyder.
It's simple to prove that they would not be at that place, at that time, were it not for his funeral.

There is no need for the courts to ****-foot around this in fear of toppling the applecart known as free speech.
That would be like saying a sniper had no more intent then a simple guy firing into an empty field with a rifle.
The two are COMPLETELY seperate.

tailgater wrote:

From the OP:

They were kept 1,000 feet away from the church and because of the use of an alternative entrance for church-goers there was no disruption to the memorial.

DrafterX wrote:

They had there permit and were gathered at the location that were told to be at. They are very careful to stay within the bounds of the law. you are correct that they choose the time and location in hopes of controversy, and they got it. The problem is, if the court allowed the prohibition of demonstrating at the same time of the funeral, what else would be exempted? Ban protests at the same time as political speeches?

ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#23

The part of the decision I didn't like was the majority reference to the protestor (maggots) fallowing POLICE INSTRUCTIONS ........

ZRX1200
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15 years ago

#24

The part of the decision I didn't like was the majority reference to the protestor (maggots) fallowing POLICE INSTRUCTIONS ........

tailgater
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15 years ago

#25

From the OP:

They had there permit and were gathered at the location that were told to be at. They are very careful to stay within the bounds of the law. you are correct that they choose the time and location in hopes of controversy, and they got it. The problem is, if the court allowed the prohibition of demonstrating at the same time of the funeral, what else would be exempted? Ban protests at the same time as political speeches?

jojoc wrote:

jojo,
that's not relevant.

Political protests are not designed to provoke a reaction so much as to make a point.
The Westboro Baptists have no point other than to provoke a reaction.

And if a political protest DID cross that line, then it SHOULD be disbanned. In fact, it would be.
Because people DO understand the difference between free speech and taunting.

The problem with these westboro lunatics is that if they were ever shut down it would be PERCEIVED to be because of their message. So the courts are afraid.

Shame on them.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#26

🤔
I think if I were gonna bury my son and these bassards planned to attend I'd change the date of the funeral as soon as they got their permit...

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#27

The ACLU sucks. (I'm not sure they were even involved in this because they hate Christians but we haven't ripped on them lately.)

rfenst
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15 years ago

#28

True, Robert, but St. Joseph SPECIFICALLY simply banned this particular group. It could never work, of course, but these lovable rednecks just figured "to hell with it" and made the WBC illegal in St Joseph. LOL

JadeRose wrote:

Banning a specific group based upon the unpleasantness of their message is not "content neutral" and represents a preemptive "freeze out". I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to come to your town just to push/test the rule. Could result in a damage award in their favor.

Edited by user 15 years ago | Reason: Not specified

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#29

That would be a poor choice --- it is exactly the response they want. The reason they choose the locations they do is they hope someone will cross the line and do something "stupid". The result: 1. lots of free publicity 2. they sue the person and attempt to get civil damages and a means to further finance their "Cause".

jojoc wrote:

Don't be so sure they won't have weapons for self-defense. Ever been to one of their rallies to counter-protest? Surrealistisk and not fun.

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#30

The ACLU sucks. (I'm not sure they were even involved in this because they hate Christians but we haven't ripped on them lately.)

HockeyDad wrote:

was the ACLU involved in anything other than an amicus curiae brief?
If so, can you imagine how much they hated what they felt compelled to do- just like the Justices must have?

Edited by user 15 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#31

Amicus Curie?

Didn't she discover x-rays or penicillin or something?

rfenst
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15 years ago

#32

Amicus Curie?

Didn't she discover x-rays or penicillin or something?

HockeyDad wrote:

No, that was her younger sister Marrie and brother in law Pierre. And, it had to do with theories of radioactivity, discovery of new elements and radiation treatment of cancers. I believe penicillin was discovered by Arthur Flemming. Touche?

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#33

Arthur Flemming, the figure skater?

stogiemonger
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15 years ago

#34

not as easy as it sounds... they hide behind the local law enforcement like a little kid on his front porch.... I don't think you could get close enough if you really tried.. and besides, they send women and children to these protests...

here is my encounter with them..
http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/599501/Might-get-ugly-around-here-this-weekend-Westboro-

DrafterX wrote:

I had no idea how organized they really are. Bringing along children to the protest as well. Pathetic.

jojoc
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#35

Don't be so sure they won't have weapons for self-defense. Ever been to one of their rallies to counter-protest? Surrealistisk and not fun.

rfenst wrote:

Robert - I am sure that they are ready to defend themselves, but you can bet your arse that they will not through the first punch. But they will do whatever they can to provoke someone else to. They were in town about 2 months ago or so. I drove by where they were (had no choice -- they were on the only main road less than half-mile from my house.) Unreal. I was very glad that the day was windy and very cold!

SteveS
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15 years ago

#36

The ruling did not surprise me ... though I could not hold the Westboro bunch in lower regard, it IS a free speech issue.

That said, if I were the father of a fallen warrior whose funeral was disrupted by these c*cks*ck*rs as the Snyder funeral was, I would not have sued nor would I have been standing by for a court ruling ...

I'd have walked up to the first j*ck*ss with a bullhorn, pull out a pistol and shoot him between the eyes, then would turn on the second ...

yes, I know I'd be either dead or arrested within moments, but I sure as hell would have made a statement they wouldn't soon forget ...

teedubbya
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15 years ago

#37

Fred Phelps will pass soon. He is old and not in the best health. I'm not sure what will happen after.

My first direct experience with this group was about 12 years ago. Since I have been watching them with fascination. They are as smart as they are evil but I guess when the devil shows on this earth I'd be really surprised if he/it was a dumbass.

I had some business dealings with one of them (the family) where I had to be professional and just deal with it. Very dificult to do but there was no real choice. They are great at putting you in that position. I also know people whose childeren went to school with theirs (now full members).

If only the intelligence they collectively have would be put towards good rather than evil. But they beleive they are putting their efforts towards good. Its hard to figure but I beleive they actually beleive their own drivel.

Its like the anti abortion crowd (speaking figuartively not making the direct comparison) beleiving that killing abortion docs or bombing clinics is ok and even good or holy. This group beleives that about what they do.

If you google hard enough there is a fascinating unfinished/unpublished book about them written in part by one of the children that fled. They were compelled not to finish.