You may be right, Tim. It just seems as though it's a majority after hundreds of thousands of conversations/interactions...
Much work is probably duplicated however because one hand doesn't know what the other's doing, people are busy covering their asses by following ridiculous sop's, and since accountability is not stringently enforced, the worker tends to stretch out a workload to fill the workday- instead of trying to squeeze in as much work as possible into a workday.

Some of the above applies to the private sector as well. The difference being, a competitive market only allows for the survival of the fittest. There's no safety net.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Government spending in the USA is now almost 40% of the entire GDP. 40% of the entire economy.

People wonder where the factories went......they were tore down to create government office buildings!

HockeyDad wrote:

There are some extremely talented, smart, motivated people around me that truly care about what we do.

teedubbya wrote:

I mentioned either a Government subsidized health care that we can individually supplement OR a private system which allows the payer to competitively seek out health care care coverages OUTSIDE of his state. Right now we have monopolies running the show. These result in folks like me paying 3x more for a $5,000 deductible than what I used to pay for a $250 deductible a few years ago...

Secondly, my father was a successful physician. My father-in-law on the other hand was a skilled tradesman (built homes, worked with concrete, etc.). Both were hard working. One alternates between two homes & receives 3x what the other, who lives in a modest retirement home, makes in SS monthly income. I'm sorry, but at a time of teetering national bankruptcy, we have to discard social, pie in the sky shibboleths, and trim the excess fat. Our ponzi scheme can no longer afford to pay the already very comfortable so that they can walk around with more cash and buy more lattes. Someone has to bite the shiite sandwich.



Yes, HD, I agree with you. Lines can blur. Ultimately, I see a socialist system with an equal yet lower standard of living for most. The rich will always know who they are, and be rich. The rest of us just want to survive and feed/shelter our loved ones. Frills are not necessary in dire times.

bloody spaniard wrote:

1/2 paycheck on the 15th. Don't know if I'm getting paid on the 1st. As mentioned above, we will get paid for our services once a budget is finally agreed upon, but what are we supposed to do until then. When I say "us" I am referring to the essential employees that will still have to report to work/duty. Rent is still do. We still have to feed our families. We still have to buy gas to get to work. We have just dropped a snowball down the side of a very steep mountain. Where will it stop, and what will the destruction be?

gimbel wrote:

(TW) Brother, no offense but you may have been insulated to your fiefdom. A department with some apparently very capable people. I have no reason to doubt that. Relax.

At some point, I've dealt with ALL of the abc's of the Federal (and state) Government. Just my perception that many, many people are lucky to be employed there. They wouldn't have it as good in the private sector where competition is much stiffer and commensurate salaries/bennies are lower.

And no, my positive comments about Government employees shouldn't sound hollow. It was heartfelt. The reality is that these folks would be very successful in either sector.




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Elk, no offense taken. I don't know where to start with you however. A decade ago, I used to agree but reality sets in with time and faltering economy... lol (to be continued)

bloody spaniard wrote:

I interact with hundreds of folks within the government.

teedubbya wrote:

Pia Toscano should have never been eliminated from American Idol last night.

HockeyDad wrote:

She was sort of hot. Except for her nose. It needed more brown.

teedubbya wrote:

She's not Federal.

HockeyDad wrote:

Blood I aint mad at you. We all are entitled to our opinion. If I lived where you do I may feel the same. In your area Feds are like the old people and tourists are to Florida. They suck to have around but if they are gone you couldn't live off of them.

teedubbya wrote:

I sort of miss him, jimmy, jj etc. I never god mad and found the cage match amusing. It probably wouldn't happen in this format anyway.

teedubbya wrote: