RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
IT'S NOTHING MORE THEN PURE AND SIMPLE RACISM, STILL HERE
AS IT WILL ALWAYS BE, FUELED BY IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO ARE
SO LACKING IN THEMSELVES, THEY NEED TO BLAME A GROUP OF
OTHERS FOR THEIR LACK OF ABILITY TO SUCCEED AT LIFE.

DrafterX
15 years ago

FOR THEIR LACK OF ABILITY TO SUCCEED AT LIFE.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:





someone around here not able to succeed at life..?? 😕
DrafterX
15 years ago
🤔 🤔
so, Obama's grandmother was a big fat liar huh.... 😟
borndead1
15 years ago
There is a certain amount of racism, no doubt, but most of it is just the same old fake left/right divide and conquer stuff that keeps people ignorant and occupied.

Why didn't Obama put this whole thing to rest sooner? Because it gives people something to fight about! You know, the old "us vs. them", liberal vs. conservative BS that people keep swallowing year after year, election after election.
chiefburg
15 years ago

There is a certain amount of racism, no doubt, but most of it is just the same old fake left/right divide and conquer stuff that keeps people ignorant and occupied.

Why didn't Obama put this whole thing to rest sooner? Because it gives people something to fight about! You know, the old "us vs. them", liberal vs. conservative BS that people keep swallowing year after year, election after election.

borndead1 wrote:


+1 (unfortunately)......
JadeRose
15 years ago
Too easy













lulz
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

$25 a seat...........BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!! Fuzz, any chance to play the race card eh?

ZRX1200 wrote:



Race card? Hardly. Fareed called it like he sees it, and i agree.

Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas and now Herman Cain all 'played the race card', but they are on the right.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

:-k 🤔
so, Obama's grandmother was a big fat liar huh.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



No, she was mistranslated and it was corrected during the interview, but of course, it was jumped on by the birthers and the story was spread far and wide.
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

Amen. And I love how half the "points" use the word "mysterious" ... oh yeah it is SUCH a mystery. Like a whodunnit.

tweoijfoi wrote:



Que the scary music.
JadeRose
15 years ago
FuzzNJ
15 years ago

Frankly, I didn't suspect Obama was a non-U.S. citizen. I did have a hard time understanding why he just didn't do this years ago and put it to bed rather than cause all this turmoil, hate, and discontent.

And, I don't think this is truly a race issue - it's a citizenship issue. If Bush or anyone else's citizenship was in question, the opposing party (Dems or Reps) would have thrown them under the bus. Each party always looks for ways to discredit the opponent.

If it were me, I would have pulled the birth certificate 2+ years ago and said "Here. Shut your mouths and let's focus on real issues." It's not a matter of whether the President agrees or disagrees - it's putting something so simple to bed right away rather than let it fester and divide the country for two years. I'm not a birther myself, but this issue has drawn the focus away from real issues - maybe that was Obama's goal in the first place. The longer he can keep people focused on something silly, the longer it takes them to realize that shenanigans are occuring.......

Just a thought....

chiefburg wrote:



First, he was under no obligation to do anything other than provide what was provided, all was legal and taken care of.

Second, how far would you suggest we let a group of fringe characters control what a President is supposed to do? Should Clinton have shown his **** to the country to show whether or not is had a curve as someone said?

Third, I wish he wouldn't have done what he did today. It makes the idiots look more idiotic. But now that he did, you will see it will not be enough. Conspiracy theories are already out there and people are trying to prove it's a fake saying it has 'layers' and it shouldn't, letters are different, etc. Rush even talked about it today. PDF files create layers automatically, btw.

The reason this issue had legs is because the media was complicit in keeping it alive. If it had just ignored it it would be just what it is, a bunch of fringe nutcases.
DrafterX
15 years ago
🤔 🤔
ignor stuff and it'll go away..... hmmmm...
15 years ago
Probably had Steve McGarrett forge it for him

BOOK 'EM, DAN-O
dpnewell
15 years ago
Hey Fuzz,
I just looked at his certificate. Certificate of Live Birth, with no raised state seal. You and I both know that he couldn't get a NJ Driver's License with that, yet it's good enough for proof of eligibility to be POTUS. Kind of ironic.
chiefburg
15 years ago

First, he was under no obligation to do anything other than provide what was provided, all was legal and taken care of.

Second, how far would you suggest we let a group of fringe characters control what a President is supposed to do? Should Clinton have shown his **** to the country to show whether or not is had a curve as someone said?

Third, I wish he wouldn't have done what he did today. It makes the idiots look more idiotic. But now that he did, you will see it will not be enough. Conspiracy theories are already out there and people are trying to prove it's a fake saying it has 'layers' and it shouldn't, letters are different, etc. Rush even talked about it today. PDF files create layers automatically, btw.

The reason this issue had legs is because the media was complicit in keeping it alive. If it had just ignored it it would be just what it is, a bunch of fringe nutcases.

FuzzNJ wrote:


I think he only did it today because Trump made such a fuss about it that Obama was losing ground and he doesn't want to sabotage an election. Yes, he does have to prove citizenship - citizenship is required by the Constitution.

If he was truly a "peace and harmony" and "why can't we all get along" sort of guy, he would have stopped the birthers in their footsteps 2 years ago - in my opinion an extremely smart move for him. If I have nothing to hide, I'll freely show proof as quickly as possible to remove all doubt. It would have made the birthers look like morons 2 years ago instead of now (they've gained ground in two years - Obama fueled that gain).

Theories will always exist no matter who is in office. We just have to go back to the last President to see some of the stuff dredged up in those two elections. If I recall, the lefties were so against Bush that reporters were digging for anything and everything to fuel the hatred. Dan Rather lost his job because they were looking so hard they failed to see the information was bogus. So, theories won't go away. I'm just very disappointed Obama didn't kill this issue 2+ years ago and move on - it would have solved a lot. And, we don't truly know what the people would have dug up next (if anything) - that's pure speculation at this point. Either way, it did truly fuel a division in this country and I think Obama could have done it delibertly to divide the party, thus making reelection easier for him. After all, isn't he supposed to be one of the smartest men alive (his books imply as much). I think Obama knew exactly what he was doing.

As far as keeping it alive, I'm guessing it was a big enough issue to keep surfacing. If it had no legs at all and no doubt existed, it would have been labeled a non-story and it would have been killed eons ago.
richokeeffe
15 years ago
So I went to the cnn site - and looked at the certificate.

I think I know what he has been trying to hide........

Father listed as 25 years old
Mother listed as 18 years old

sooooo, a 24 or 25 year old black guy knocked up an 18 or maybe 17 year old white chick. kinda sleazy.......
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

So I went to the cnn site - and looked at the certificate.

I think I know what he has been trying to hide........

Father listed as 25 years old
Mother listed as 18 years old

sooooo, a 24 or 25 year old black guy knocked up an 18 or maybe 17 year old white chick. kinda sleazy.......

richokeeffe wrote:



Maybe. How dare the child of an 18 and 25 year old become president!

ROBBING THE

CRADLE OUTRAGE!
DadZilla3
15 years ago
Having a fake/dubious/genuine birth certificate/certificate of live birth is the least of my concerns with this avowed Socialist. The guy could have been born right inside the Alamo for all I care. That still doesn't make him an American. In his heart he's still a bitter African colonial who despises capitalism and individual freedom.
Nicar
15 years ago

Having a fake/dubious/genuine birth certificate/certificate of live birth is the least of my concerns with this avowed Socialist. The guy could have been born right inside the Alamo for all I care. That still doesn't make him an American. In his heart he's still a bitter African colonial who despises capitalism and individual freedom.

DadZilla3 wrote:




He better not been born in Texas or lived here... we dont want him to claim residency of our state... or wait.. do we.. no democrat like that would get elected in Texas.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

He better not been born in Texas or lived here... we dont want him to claim residency of our state... or wait.. do we.. no democrat like that would get elected in Texas.

Nicar wrote:





Hmmmmm:-k


I almost moved to Texas in the early 90's.
:-k




I suppose I could live there.
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