I can be happy that OBL was killed in the way that he was because it was OBL for one, and two he was not in our custody at the time but in the wild, resisting and the world's most wanted.

Under our control and supervision=rule of law
Terrorist running around shooting at us or World's Most Wanted found after 10 years=Dead bad guy

FuzzNJ wrote:

You can't have it both ways. He is either an enemy combatant that can be killed on sight for no reason (not merely because he was a criminal "in the wild") and is not subject to our judicial system, or, he's a criminal and should have been captured alive since he didn't have a gun in his hand, then read his Miranda rights and tried in Federal court. I of course am not hypocritical and say he is an illegal enemy combatant and it was okay to shoot him and would have been great to have waterboarded him if somehow he was captured alive. I see some of the wackjobs like Michael Moore and Alan Dershowitz are at least being consistent on this, unlike you.

robertknyc wrote:

lol, dead OBL, don't care if you think I'm inconsistent. MF'r is dead.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Okay, glad we've got you on the record as being inconsistent. It will be hard for you to defend your positons going forward.

robertknyc wrote:

Oops, forgot something.

I have read the paper. And it says that torture did NOT lead to bin Laden's capture.

"Prisoners in American custody told stories of a trusted courier. When the Americans ran the man’s pseudonym past two top-level detainees — the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed; and Al Qaeda’s operational chief, Abu Faraj al-Libi — the men claimed never to have heard his name. That raised suspicions among interrogators that the two detainees were lying and that the courier probably was an important figure."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/world/asia/03intel.html 

The name was not given up until years later after these 'enhanced interigations' had ended.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through “normal interrogation approaches” and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a “myth.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/DonaldRumsfeld-gitmo-waterboarding-osamabinladen/2011/05/02/id/394820?s=al&promo_code=C30F-1 

The Big Lie: Torture Got Bin Laden

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/05/the-republican-spin.html 

FuzzNJ wrote:

"Leon Panetta, the CIA director, has confirmed that controversial "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding yielded some of the intelligence information that ultimately led to Osama bin Laden."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8491509/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-CIA-admits-waterboarding-yielded-vital-information.html 


Okay...who's lying? You or the director of the CIA?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

The only way to find out is to water board them both.

teedubbya wrote:

How many hearts and minds have we won in Arfblurkistan lately?

is it time for Obomba to keep his promise and end the wars yet?


jus wondrin.

:-k

Stinkdyr wrote:

Hmmm...Leon ol boy was all over the circuit spreading the word that it was employed.

You don't think it was deflection or misinformation, do ya?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Robert while I appreciate the attempt.... it makes me smile... there is no one in here that has EVER been 100% consistent. It is not possible.

I'm a hypocrit all the time.

teedubbya wrote:

But give fuzz credit. While he could have hidden behind any number of facts that disagree with your view he didn't. He just said he wanted him dead and didn't care if it was inconsistent.

teedubbya wrote:

And by saying "give fuzz credit" for being inconsistent, if it was the opposite would you also say "give fuzz credit for being consistent?" Seems like to you Fuzz can't lose.

robertknyc wrote:

And the reason I said what I said earlier is that Fuzz is the one here who continuously makes outrageous statements that he claims are based on principles, so if we're going to be subjected to them it's worth pointing out that he really ISN'T consistent.

robertknyc wrote:

i think there is a lot of misinformation out there as well.

Papachristou wrote:

"Seems like to you Fuzz can't lose." honestly how childish can you be? I've been ripping on Fuzz's thoughts off and on for the last week. I even defended Bush against him. Get a grip.

teedubbya wrote:

Spoken like a true fence sitter about to fall off on the left side.

robertknyc wrote: