teedubbya
15 years ago

You misunderstand me...greatly.

This isn't some undress session to expose right or wrong.

This nation cannot afford another idiot at the wheel.

It is time to really get it right.

PLEASE take the time to wath the Frontline episode. Go to the website and do more research. You will fully understand how and why I'm utterly filled with rage at the Federal Reserve and what they've been allowed to do to the American Way.

Really.

YOU, just might understand where someone else might form an opinion...based in reality...not emotion..and gain insight on a topic that eludes you at the same time.

It was there the whole time...under the radar. A lone voice tried in 1996 to raise awareness and they trumped her out.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I don't think I misunderstand you. I think we are talking about 2 different things. My point of reference is the gergen peice and advice to Obama. What the voters should do is a different thing. And out long term financial health yet another.

When I get the time I will watch the frontline peice. I like frontline. It's funny though, in here it is considered a lib mouthpeice when it suits folks, and an authoritative source when it fits. Personally I find them very interesting yet not perfect.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
If President Obama wanted to turn things around, he would focus on creating jobs. More specifically create a business climate that encourages investment and job creation.

We're 2.5 years in to his first term and he hasn't gotten around to this. It really still is not on the agenda.
teedubbya
15 years ago

If President Obama wanted to turn things around, he would focus on creating jobs. More specifically create a business climate that encourages investment and job creation.

We're 2.5 years in to his first term and he hasn't gotten around to this. It really still is not on the agenda.

HockeyDad wrote:



I agree its not on the agenda. The thing I take from Gergen (and I do not agree with his take completely) is the Prez can really do very little, therefore he must do everything he can. And he hasn't.

He may end up being the sacrificial lamb much like daddy bush (who I DO like)
DrafterX
15 years ago
maybe he ran out of shovels..... 😟
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

I don't think I misunderstand you. I think we are talking about 2 different things. My point of reference is the gergen peice and advice to Obama. What the voters should do is a different thing. And out long term financial health yet another.

When I get the time I will watch the frontline peice. I like frontline. It's funny though, in here it is considered a lib mouthpeice when it suits folks, and an authoritative source when it fits. Personally I find them very interesting yet not perfect.

teedubbya wrote:




Obama has already shown that he won't take ANY advice. He's beyond that. There's a reaosn why I call him The Kenyan King. His advice to Obama won't bring anything useful either. When you get done with that Frontline piece you will vomit that you chose to write those names like they were a real authority to be trusted. They were warned. They were challenged. They all refused to act and prosecute at a time it could've been contained. They played end-round games and trumped out a real watchdog that deserves to be heard NOW!

None of the Wall Street thieves have been brought up on charges. None of them will either...especially Paulson!


PM me when you watch the YouTube link.
teedubbya
15 years ago

Obama has already shown that he won't take ANY advice. He's beyond that. There's a reaosn why I call him The Kenyan King. His advice to Obama won't bring anything useful either. When you get done with that Frontline piece you will vomit that you chose to write those names like they were a real authority to be trusted. They were warned. They were challenged. They all refused to act and prosecute at a time it could've been contained. They played end-round games and trumped out a real watchdog that deserves to be heard NOW!

None of the Wall Street thieves have been brought up on charges. None of them will either...especially Paulson!


PM me when you watch the YouTube link.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




I'll watch it but I didn't choose those names. It was a c&p from gergen. I can argue with any given names or detail but like the overall thought. Noone is always right on this subject. No one. If they are they won't waste their time in the government, they will just go get rich.

But it sounds interesting. As you describe it I may have seen it already.


As an aside. There was what sounds like a similar peice damning all the Bush folks on 911, iraq etc but it was largly discounted in here out of convienience.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

I'll watch it but I didn't choose those names. It was a c&p from gergen. I can argue with any given names or detail but like the overall thought. Noone is always right on this subject. No one. If they are they won't waste their time in the government, they will just go get rich.

But it sounds interesting. As you describe it I may have seen it already.


As an aside. There was what sounds like a similar peice damning all the Bush folks on 911, iraq etc but it was largly discounted in here out of convienience.

teedubbya wrote:




My friend...they got rich while they all turned a blind eye to the fraud that was going on and then set up shop and expanded on what others were already doing.

Too big to fail...no. They want ALL of the money.

They want it done with govt. muscle now.
teedubbya
15 years ago

My friend...they got rich while they all turned a blind eye to the fraud that was going on and then set up shop and expanded on what others were already doing.

Too big to fail...no. They want ALL of the money.

They want it done with govt. muscle now.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I have no doubt about that just based on human nature. But the point is whomever you name to that group you need experience and knowledge and you need different perspectives/opinions. Then you weigh and choose.

It's easy to point at those you wish to exclude but harder to identify those you wish to include. And anyone at that level of knowledge or experience likely has dirty hands or at least the perception of.
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
We deserve people that aren't dirty.

Really.

We've all seen where slime gets us.

It's time for the right people to lead.
teedubbya
15 years ago

We deserve people that aren't dirty.

Really.

We've all seen where slime gets us.

It's time for the right people to lead.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Can't disagree with that. Just don't see who yet.
Whistlebritches
15 years ago
I cannot believe Fuzz hasn't weighed in here.....Must be waiting on his orders from LEFTWINGAMERICA.Poor bastid can't say a word without authorization.....and those exact talking points laid out before him.


BTW.......I hope Obama vacations all the way til Jan 2013.Keeping him out of DC may just be the best thing we got going...........I wish he'd take congress with him.



Ron
DrafterX
15 years ago
I heard he was banned.... 😟
ZRX1200
15 years ago
Isn't there an extended "honeymoon" period for a diversity hire???
TMCTLT
15 years ago
The reason Fuzz has not shown here is because the good Dr. and TW have engaged in a well thought out debate without slinging dung @ one another while both making and conceding points that are based on truth and fact. If only our elected officials could conduct themselves with this type of humility, "We The People" may actually enjoy some REAL leadership coming out of Washington. I applaud the well thought out discussion you fellas held here!!!!!! =d>
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
DrMaddVibe

WHEN GEORGE WEN FISHING WIIH HIS FATHER DURING KATRINA.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_bush_gone_fishing.htm 

AND HE ALSO READ A BOOK ABOUT A GOAT.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago


TMCTLT

R U TRYING TO RUIN MY PHUN.

WHAT THE HELL KIND OF DEBATE WITHOUT SLINGING, AS YOU CALL IT DUNG.

IT DOESN'T GET GOOD UNTIL THE DUNG HITS THE PHAN.

IF I WANTED A REASONABLE DEBATE, I'LL WATCH ANOTHER REPUBLICAN DEBATE.

THEY SPEAK NOW, SURPRISING THE HELL OUT OF THE APES. EVEN YODA
THOUGHT IT WAS SPECIAL.
DadZilla3
15 years ago

Watch.


DrMaddVibe wrote:


For anyone who hasn't seen it, this Frontline video is well worth the watching.
McBryde
15 years ago

"Hey look at the Nero guy on the fiddle he's making some really sweet music" as Rome is burning!!!!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I thought this said Negro, and I was wondering, cause I have never seen one playing a fiddle! But this is Obaaaaaaaaaama here!

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engletl
15 years ago
It can't be too hard.

I bet I could do it with only ONE vacation in 4 years
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

I thought this said Negro, and I was wondering, cause I have never seen one playing a fiddle! But this is Obaaaaaaaaaama here!

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McBryde wrote:




C'mon....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_John_Creech 

Really?
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