They can denounce all they want. Think it will mean anything in terms of fear and concern? Isn't this still a country where our religious beliefs are private? What method and degree of renouncement will suffice to make people more comfortable? How does the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" fit into this? For the sake of discussion, what say you?
rfenst wrote:
Robert, Robert, Robert...
First, this is a country where our religious beliefs can be P-U-B-L-I-C. Usually, private religious beliefs are held in communist countries because...well...if they become public, the people who hold them land in jail.
I can say your people killed Christ, you can say I follow a blaphemeing heretic who got what he deserved, and no one gets their head cut off.
(Not that either you nor I would probably say that, well, except to lob a granade in the discussion.)
That's the whole point of Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression, and so on. It scares me a tad that a person who is of the legal profession (read: you) has this "religion is private" point of view.
As for "innocent until proven guilty", that only applies to the government. It does not govern human behavior. Average individuals don't need a jury of 12 people to avoid someone because they come off like a stoner. That's also called Freedom of Association.
Where the point is that Muslims, in general, do not even remotely go out of their way to denounce Islamic terrorism, Islamic terrorists, and in fact many muslims in this country send money overseas to fund this crap. And the Muslim community remains closed, and even circles the wagons around their own simply because they are "their own." It's utterly insane.
Then there are are walking rectums at CAIR who try to shame anyone who dares say anything bad about Islam or Middle Easterners in general. These guys are basically in bed with Hamas. They won't denonce Hamas or Hezzbullah. They tapdance around the subject, and do it with a straight face.
And the pilot is the one here to blame? I don't think so.
A Muslim or a Jew can tell me I'm going to hell day-in and day-out. That's their opinion. It doesn't affect me one way or another. it is part of living in a free society.
But when they start dancing and cheering while people jump to their deaths from the 80th floor, and and using the amorphus US "foreign policy" as a cheap excuse to be a bloodthirsty little barbarian...well...that's when people have a right to vocialize thast the Islamic types "scare" them.
And when you have the ****-swallowers at CAIR excusing or denying this sort of behavior, it doesn't tend to diffuse the concerns of average people.
Maybe if they demanded that others of their ilk stop being a bunch of savage little animals, or *GASP* maybe help capture or kill a few of these little monsters, less average Americans would be "worried" about someone of Arab extraction.
It would also help of a few of the CAIR spokemen were publically humiliated by showing everyone what tiny penisus they really have.
I mean, there were lots of Nordic types out killing Germans in WWI and WWII. And my grandfather was often harassed for having a German-sounding name during WWII...despite the fact that he was an instrumental part of the war effort. You don't hear much about that these days, but it was VERY prevalent back then.
I guess that was a time when there were a few less candy-a**es in the world...like the dim bulbs who populate CAIR.
So, in short, the pilot has a good reason to not like someone of Arab/Islamic extraction.