dstieger
14 years ago
What's the over/under on this? I'm guessing by mid-November. I was really starting to believe we'd get Iraq/Afghan drawdowns starting to expedite somewhat. But, now I expect we don't have to bother to bring the troops and supplies all the way back to CONUS.
rfenst
14 years ago

What's the over/under on this? I'm guessing by mid-November. I was really starting to believe we'd get Iraq/Afghan drawdowns starting to expedite somewhat. But, now I expect we don't have to bother to bring the troops and supplies all the way back to CONUS.

dstieger wrote:



We have no business getting in to it on the ground with Iran right now. That leaves an air-strike, which would have to be aimed at their total destruction. They really can't do much to attack the continental U.S., so watch for them to lob everything at Israel or other middle eastern countries that oppose them. That will turn in to WWIII.


(And get our middle east troops out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan NOW!)
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
This is the Kenyan King diverting your attention from Fast and Furious...empty campaign rallies...a political party shutting the door on ineffectual leadership...bailouts and buyouts from Wall Street to solar power...he thinks he's going to pull a red herring to garner support for his uber failures as a sitting American President.

I really hope we as taxpayers can take away the funding of Secret Service protection for his worthless ass....and his pension too!
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

We have no business getting in to it on the ground with Iran right now. That leaves an air-strike, which would have to be aimed at their total destruction. They really can't do much to attack the continental U.S., so watch for them to lob everything at Israel or other middle eastern countries that oppose them. That will turn in to WWIII.


(And get our middle east troops out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan NOW!)

rfenst wrote:




Let Israel do the heavy lifting for themselves. We're done being their bitch. Unleash the hounds and let them play...WITHOUT OUR MONEY!!!!
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

What's the over/under on this? I'm guessing by mid-November. I was really starting to believe we'd get Iraq/Afghan drawdowns starting to expedite somewhat. But, now I expect we don't have to bother to bring the troops and supplies all the way back to CONUS.

dstieger wrote:




Ahem...we STILL have troops in Germany and Japan.

That was was when?

That should give you a pretty fair timeline for when we pull out of that hell hole.

PS: WE'RE NOT!!!!
borndead1
14 years ago
To say "this plot has been linked to Iran" is ridiculous.

IRAN wasn't plotting anything. A few guys who happen to be Iranian were.



Can you hear that? Sounds like...war drums...

ZRX1200
14 years ago
When is the election again?
DrafterX
14 years ago

When is the election again?

ZRX1200 wrote:




the election will be postponed... we need to fix the economy and stuff and can't be bothered with silly elections... 😟
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
They knew about this boogeyman back in June.

Glad they were "saving" America.

Team America...**** yeah!

rfenst
14 years ago

I really hope we as taxpayers can take away the funding of Secret Service protection for his worthless ass....and his pension too!

DrMaddVibe wrote:







Why, so you can adjust the sight and pull the trigger yourself?

Why in the hell would ANY GOOD AMERICAN want ANY President to go without adequate protection?
What the hell is wrong with you?

(Those are rhetorical questions.)

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Why, so you can adjust the sight and pull the trigger yourself?

Why in the hell would ANY GOOD AMERICAN want ANY President to go without adequate protection?
What the hell is wrong with you?

(Those are rhetorical questions.)

rfenst wrote:




Why would you think I want to shoot him? He's not worthy of being a martyr. He's not worth the lead. He's not worth the effort. He's already committing political suicide and has already passed Jimmy Carter for being the worst American president. No, he's wasted enough taxpayer money! He's an arrogant fool. He doesn't deserve protection from the mess he created. Those fools protesting on Wall Street? He's indirectly funding and leading that squabble. The links are all over this site. Stay blind.

What's wrong with me? Nothing. Thanks for asking though.

(That was a rhetorical answer.)
wheelrite
14 years ago
Israel will be our proxy and attack the Persians,,,
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Israel will be our proxy and attack the Persians,,,

wheelrite wrote:




OUR proxy?

We've been their bitch for FAAAAR too long. The amount of money we've sent there and the blatant slap in our faces should tell us to turn the spigot off. They won't listen to reason. Let them do it without our money...our backing...or our military.

Cut 'em loose.

They're big boys and can handle their own biddnez.
wheelrite
14 years ago

OUR proxy?

We've been their bitch for FAAAAR too long. The amount of money we've sent there and the blatant slap in our faces should tell us to turn the spigot off. They won't listen to reason. Let them do it without our money...our backing...or our military.

Cut 'em loose.

They're big boys and can handle their own biddnez.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Yes OUR proxy...

Bought and paid for...
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Yes OUR proxy...

Bought and paid for...

wheelrite wrote:





HA! Are you thinking of the same Israel that is in the Middle East????
HockeyDad
14 years ago
I wonder how the new war will affect the Nobel Peace Prize.
wheelrite
14 years ago

HA! Are you thinking of the same Israel that is in the Middle East????

HockeyDad wrote:



no the one in Queens
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

HA! Are you thinking of the same Israel that is in the Middle East????

HockeyDad wrote:




Let the Israelis and the House of Saud go after them!


Saudis say Iran must 'pay the price' for alleged plot as US resists retaliation

Tehran denies it was behind plot to kill Saudi ambassador and says US is using it to divert attention from problems at home

Saudi Arabia has issued a menacing ­warning to Iran that it will have to pay a price for the alleged plot to hire a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate its ambassador in Washington.

The threat from the Saudis came as the Obama administration described the alleged plot as a "dangerous escalation" in the region.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said "clearly the plotting happened at senior levels of the Quds force [Iranian special forces]" but the administration resisted calls from within the US, mainly from the conservative right, to retaliate against Iran with military action.

On Wednesday night Carney said Barack Obama spoke to King Abdullah, the Saudi king, about the alleged plot and both agreed it was "a flagrant violation of international law".

Iran denied it was behind the alleged plot, with officials accusing Washington of fabricating the story to divide Sunni Muslims, the dominant group in Saudi, and Shia Muslims, the dominant group in Iran.

They claimed Barack Obama was using the story to divert attention from the Occupy Wall Street protests.

The US justice department said on Tuesday two men had been charged with a plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington, Adel al-Jubeir, with a bomb explosion at one of his favourite restaurants.


One of the men, Manssor Arbabsiar, an American-Iranian, is alleged to have sought the help of a Mexican drug cartel, Zetas, to provide explosives and carry out the attack. The other man is, according to the US, in Iran.

Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's former ambassador to Washington and former head of the Saudi intelligence service, told a London conference: "The burden of proof and the amount of evidence in the case is overwhelming and clearly shows official Iranian responsibility for this.

"This is unacceptable. Somebody in Iran will have to pay the price."

Relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran have long been strained, exacerbated this year by Saudi sending forces into neighbouring Bahrain to help put down protesters, many of them Shia Muslims.

In spite of increased tension between Saudi and Iran as a result of the episode, the alleged plot is being met with scepticism within the diplomatic community, as well as from foreign affairs analysts specialising in Iran. Many said the plot was amateurish and questioned what Iran would gain from such an outrage.

A former western diplomat with an intimate knowledge of Iranian affairs said: "I don't believe Iran's regime was behind the plot. If we assume it was Iran's plot, then it would seem like a group of professional gangsters hiring a careless agent for their most important project. It's impossible."

Fresh details emerged yesterday about the man at the centre of the affair. Arbabsiar, 56, appeared in court in New York on Tuesday. He is allegedly linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, the paramilitary group closely entwined with the Iranian leadership. He does not fit the usual profile of an Iranian agent, who tend to be professional. Arbabsiar is a car salesman in Corpus Christi, Texas.

Susan Rice, US ambassador to the UN, said she and a team of experts were briefing individual members of the security council on the plot. One of the main pieces of evidence is $100,000 (£63,000) transferred to the US, allegedly from Iran, as a downpayment for the assassination attempt.

The vice-president, Joe Biden, in an ABC television interview, said Iran would be held accountable and all options, including military, remained on the table. But the administration is focused on a diplomatic effort to persuade its allies to impose tougher economic sanctions on Iran.

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, described the alleged plot as a "reckless act". The state department issued a three-month worldwide travel alert for American citizens.

Iran's foreign ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, said the US accusations were baseless. "Such worn-out approaches are … part of the special scenarios staged and pursued by the enemies of Islam and the region to sow discord among Muslims," the semi-official Fars news agency quoted him as saying.

Fars also quoted Alaoddin Boroujerdi, the head of the parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy, saying: "Today the United States is witnessing a popular uprising called Wall Street protests, which have targeted the hostile policies of that country's statesmen. Thus, Americans are seeking to derail the public opinion from the Wall Street uprising."
Stinkdyr
14 years ago
I see it is time to trot out my Final Solution again....


Ok, listen up all you chumpzillas, here da dealio.
Since Israel and Puerto Rico are both our welfare byches, it is about time we start calling the shots....and they can either suck it and swallow it, or we cut off all funding.

So, here is what we do: We relocate Israel to Vieques. They can dismantle their wailing wall and take it with them. This gets Israel out of that baaaaaad neighborhood they are in. Then they can build all sorts of fine beach resorts with PR labor, for Duhmericans to holiday at.

This plan is a total WIN-WIN-WIN for all involved.

=d>
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
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