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They're prepared to make it a long haul. All the way until the reefer and blotter supply holds up!

After that...they'll go back to their parent's basements.

[frypan]

dubleuhb
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14 years ago

#24

I think there are more people waiting in line for the new Iphone than at these ''protest's''.

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#25

I think there are more people waiting in line for the new Iphone than at these ''protest's''.

dubleuhb wrote:

Don't underestimate the power of One.

rfenst
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14 years ago

#26

[quote=MikeyRavioli]The problem with no central leadership and no unified message is that no one has any idea what the hell these people want.

That may come with time. They may grow with time. They may morph with time. Competent leadership could occur. Or, nothing could change and they will become politically ineffective.

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MikeyRavioli
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14 years ago

#27

Why is there no march to the White House?

By the way, here's the latest request for money the Obama campaign sent out Thursday:

"In the third fund-raising quarter of this year, 606,027 people donated to this campaign - even more than gave in the record-breaking previous quarter.

" ...We are focused on building an infrastructure that will help us win in 2012. ...Each quarter we set a combined goal for ourselves and our allies at the Democratic National Committee. We far exceeded our goal at $55 million this quarter .Together Obama for America and the DNC raised more than $70 million."

70 million in a quarter is probably more than any of the CEO's whose homes they marched on make combined.

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DrafterX
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14 years ago

#28

Together Obama for America and the DNC raised more than $70 million."

MikeyRavioli wrote:

man, that's a whole bunch of ciggs & stuff.... 😟

rfenst
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14 years ago

#29

MikeyRavioli wrote:

The amounnt that will be spent by the D or R alone could eend up real close to $1 billion. What a crying shame- on all of us.

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#30

^ yes sir!

And Drafter they don't but cigars they confiscate them in Chicago.

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#31

Boy...are we sure that there's REALLY 99%?

I mean that's a whole wad o' chedda for the 1%er's to dump on the Kenyan King.

Sure as HELL isn't the 99%'ers. Why, on their webpage they're talking about going to Starbucks. Coffee costs money, ya big dummy! Buy now and they're giving 1% away...what a corporation. A whole 1% for serving out overpriced barrel burned tasting liquid hot lava. Those wacky OWS'ers!

I'm thinking that it's prolly more like 40%...maybe 35%. There's already a mass defection from the Wall Street crowd on Owedumba...seems the bigger fish loves 'em some Mittens...whatever...if the Reader in Thief is still racking in the dough like that and his people are laying on the pavement smelling like a horse stable then you'd think he'd...oh IDK...buy some air freshener and order some pizzas. 70 million might not seem like a lot nowadays because we've been programmed that TRILLIONS is the new thousands now but still...that's a lot of money for a moron that claims he's driving us out of a ditch while he's busy doing that...he stopped the car on the railroad crossing and there's a train coming...WHOO-WHOOOO...its the Interest Line...comin' into the station on time.

MikeyRavioli
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14 years ago

#32

Ultimately Robert, that’s my point. You want to tax millionaires; tax millionaires. I don’t care I am not one of them. But is it about jobs or is it about attacking the people that the left has designated as the bad guys. JPM and NewsCorp employee millions of people who pay taxes and have brought billions of dollars of taxable business to the economy but the left has designated their CEO’s as villains so the villagers take up their torches and pitchforks and storm their homes.

They side with rap stars who earn big money and give little back. All while the political machine will chew through about a billion dollars between the two parties to elect the next empty suit who will break all his promises and fail to bring about any significant change due to the fact that the system is broken.

It’s about jobs. I get it. So why vilify the people who employ the largest numbers in the private sector while standing beside those who earn millions and contribute little?

Until there is some kind of centralized leadership and unified message there are too many crazy dirty hippies with no realistic agenda out there making so much noise that the reasonable message about the system needing reform cannot be heard. For their own good they need to organize and clean up their act.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#33

Fuzz, I rarely agree with you, but I do think that this forum needs you, if for no other reason than because nobody else around here can elevate DMV's outrage like you can.

Your credibility has never been all too high with me, but most of the time I'm willing to read what you have to say. However, when you call the above manifesto jibberish a 'statement of facts', even I have to throw you the BS flag. Aside from the fact that corporations donate to politicians and political causes, I don't think there are any facts in that goofy document. Sounds more like someone trying to recite some Karl Marx papers from memory without considering whether any of it has any merit today.

rfenst may be correct that we shouldn't underestimate the potential for these mobs to have some lasting impact, but count me as another that would like to hear just one coherent statement about what they think they want.

dstieger wrote:

Which of those statements do you find to be demonstrably false from your point of view?

tailgater
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14 years ago

#34

The class warfare started long ago. It was there when poor fought back with child labor laws. It was there when collective bargaining was attacked. It was there went people we told to eat cake.

Brewha wrote:

This reads much better with some sad background music playing softly.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#35

The amounnt that will be spent by the D or R alone could eend up real close to $1 billion. What a crying shame- on all of us.

rfenst wrote:

Agreed, except it will be much, much more especially if you include the house and senate races.

DrafterX
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14 years ago

#36

This reads much better with some sad background music playing softly.

tailgater wrote:

poor Mr. Bojangles..... 😞

tailgater
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14 years ago

#37

I have made no substantive points other than to try to put this into and encourage some discussion in a historica/political science context. Populism, which doesn't always meen the middle class or lower class,is always present to varying degrees and in diferent forms . Far more so right now, in my opinion, because of thisterrible recession. It would be unwise for anyone to underestimate the potential of something like this to snowball ino something much larger and far more politically important. We are indeed going through substantive changes right now and will into the future. If enough of these people start to get their act together, then they could represent an important voting block- like the Tea Party has over the last three or four or greater election cycles. And, yes, this presently is a version of true class warfare.

rfenst wrote:

The problem I have with these groups is that they are demanding something for nothing.
They can't stand the fact that it's difficult to find a good job.
So they are following the presidents cue and attacking the "rich".

Again I will ask: Why are they not protesting outside their universities? They paid good money for their degrees. They are not getting any return for their dollar. These CEO's did nothing to them but are being blamed. The Deans cheated them much more so then the CEO's.

But that would take some common sense.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#38

You want to tax millionaires; tax millionaires. I don’t care I am not one of them.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

And this is a prime example of the central attitude that is causing the problem. It's all about me.

There is a difference between justice and charity. When you have the former, you don't need the latter.

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#39

This reads much better with some sad background music playing softly.

tailgater wrote:

Whatever you need to open your eyes works for me. Go for it.

tailgater
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14 years ago

#40

These buffoons may as well protest outside a basketball court and complain that the players are too tall.

Sure, their rant is based on facts. But what are they expecting to be done about it?

Akin to the tea party?
Not on the occupiers best day.

As any successful person knows, a critical aspect of getting what you want is to have a goal. In other words, you have to know what it is you're trying to achieve.

Didn't their worthless college degrees teach them anything?

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