DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

I think this is an opportunity here but there are too many wack jobs in the OWS crowd.....too bad.

ZRX1200 wrote:




When you have shock jock Howard Stern goofing on you...it's not going to end well for them!
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Excuse me, but YOU are playing the guilt by association game. You don't like the facts. You have to muddy it up by dragging MLK and the Civil Rights Movement into it, David Duke and your whole diatribe about the Tea Party being racist. Hello...Herman Cain...the 100% black man...yeah...the successful businessman...umm...he's backed by the Tea Party and won the straw poll here in Florida that created the surge he's enjoying now on top of the GOP current fold. Wake up and smell the OWS'ers!

You heard no "denouncement" because there was never anything racist that happened. If you're talking about that congressman that claimed he was spit on and called the "N" word...video of the entire event is out there. He was lying.

To date at the well over 300 Tea Party events across this nation...not one single arrest by someone actually attending an event. There's been some SEIU thugs that were for beating up a black man selling the Gadsden flags which ironically stated "Don't Tread On Me".

When a collective band of useful idiots have no leadership it opens the window for them to jump through. I'd be a bit worried about my message being hijacked if (thank God I'm really not though!) I were a OWS'er. They still do not have a unified message. They're still being used by morons like Sean Penn and our President.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



And just when I thought you were starting to be logical and reasonable you had to take the exit to crazytown again.

For you to say "there was never anything racist that happened" is insane, a lie or you are perpetuating talking points without knowing what the f*ck you are talking about. There were signs with n*gger on them, Obama wants 'white slavery', taxpayers are 'jews for Obama's ovens', 'what you talkin' bout Willis', Obama as Hitler, signs advocating armed insurection saying 'bring guns tomorrow' or 'we came unarmed, this time', 'monkey see monkey do', a guy with a toy monkey saying it was Obama and making it dance, t-shirts with Obama portrayed as a monkey, 'by ballot or by bullet', signs saying Obama is a muslim terrorist, Obama portrayed as an african witch doctor with a bone in his nose, Palin speaking on stage and someone in the crowd yells 'n*gger' it's on video and can be heard.

Damn, I could go on, but yeah, nothing racist ever happened. I also threw in some overthrow the government with violence examples as well.

So, you are wrong, so very, very wrong. Quit getting all you info from right wing people who say that there are no racist signs and you won't be accused of spreading lies and propoganda.
MikeyRavioli
14 years ago
There are two seperate movements both moving further away from center. One right, one left.
As you move furhter from center you start to run closer to lunatic fringe territory.

There are crazy people on both sides. Water is wet. The sun is hot.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

There are two seperate movements both moving further away from center. One right, one left.
As you move furhter from center you start to run closer to lunatic fringe territory.

There are crazy people on both sides. Water is wet. The sun is hot.

MikeyRavioli wrote:




I'll agree with that, however the difference is as clear as the nose on one's face...one is legal...one is not.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I'll agree with that, however the difference is as clear as the nose on one's face...one is legal...one is not.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Is legality what you base your moral standards on? (bad grammar)
teedubbya
14 years ago
I can't decide on OWS or burning man this year. I'd do both but I don't have the coin.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Is legality what you base your moral standards on? (bad grammar)

FuzzNJ wrote:




Why?
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

I can't decide on OWS or burning man this year. I'd do both but I don't have the coin.

teedubbya wrote:




Burning Man...they have permits, concession stands and bathrooms![sarcasm]
teedubbya
14 years ago

Burning Man...they have permits, concession stands and bathrooms![sarcasm]

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Burning man is so yesterday
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Why?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Simple question really.
DrafterX
14 years ago

Burning man is so yesterday

teedubbya wrote:





😟 I heard women show thier boobs and stuff there.....
Brewha
14 years ago

😟 I heard women show thier boobs and stuff there.....

DrafterX wrote:


That’s Bourbon Street, not Wall Street. Easy mistake, I often confuse them myself . . . .
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I'll agree with that, however the difference is as clear as the nose on one's face...one is legal...one is not.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Ignoring the question says quite a bit.

Is legality what you base your moral standards on?

FuzzNJ wrote:


snowwolf777
14 years ago
Thieves preying on fellow protesters (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | October 18, 2011 | LARRY CELONA, et. al

Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011

"Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”

Crafty cat burglars sneaked into the makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park overnight and swiped as much as $2,500 in donated greenbacks from right under the noses of volunteers who’d fallen asleep after a long day whipping up meals for the hundreds of hungry protesters, the volunteers said."


FIGHT THE POWER! WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION IN ACTION!
w:d/


teedubbya
14 years ago
Big surprise.... theives on wall street
MikeyRavioli
14 years ago
Legality is not what I base my moral standards on.

That being said - it is easier to effect the kind of change they are asking for by working within the system instead of standing outside of it and shaking your fist at it.
I am not a tea party supporter but they have a lot going for them that OWS doesn't. They have a message, a platform, and actual candidates to get that message out. Legally!

The shame of this movement is that so many people do agree with them in principal but the lack of organization and willingness to work within the system combined with the lunatics hijacking the spotlight will never lead to anything concrete.

With that kind of support plus a little unification of their message, a little centralized leadership, and a litlle self policing and a willingness to work within the system combined with a media savvy spokesperson and this could turn out to legitimate force to be reckoned with come election time.

Until then they are just a bunch of unwashed hippies pooping in a park.
teedubbya
14 years ago
I have no issue with what they or the tea baggers do. To each their own.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Thieves preying on fellow protesters (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | October 18, 2011 | LARRY CELONA, et. al

Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011

"Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”

Crafty cat burglars sneaked into the makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park overnight and swiped as much as $2,500 in donated greenbacks from right under the noses of volunteers who’d fallen asleep after a long day whipping up meals for the hundreds of hungry protesters, the volunteers said."


FIGHT THE POWER! WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION IN ACTION!
w:d/


snowwolf777 wrote:



When I was living with my parents our house was broken into. It was obviously because we were living amongst a criminal element and deserved it. I'm sure no homeless, vagrants, drug addicts or criminals would be attracted to a large group of people occupying a park. They are probably eating their meals at Gilt leaving all the commies to steal from each other. Damn commies.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Legality is not what I base my moral standards on.

MikeyRavioli wrote:



Wasn't directed at you. No one should, of course. Sometimes it's necessary to break an unjust law for a higher moral purpose. Justice is one, in my humble opinion.


That being said - it is easier to effect the kind of change they are asking for by working within the system instead of
standing outside of it and shaking your fist at it.

MikeyRavioli wrote:



What evidence do you have to support that claim? I can't think of any major societal change that has ever been without force from the outside, usually violent. In this case it would be a shift in policy from corporate interests to human interests. A totally radical proposition at this point.


The shame of this movement is that so many people do agree with them in principal but the lack of organization and willingness to work within the system combined with the lunatics hijacking the spotlight will never lead to anything concrete.

With that kind of support plus a little unification of their message, a little centralized leadership, and a litlle self policing and a willingness to work within the system combined with a media savvy spokesperson and this could turn out to legitimate force to be reckoned with come election time.

Until then they are just a bunch of unwashed hippies pooping in a park.

MikeyRavioli wrote:




Yes, you've made this point abundently clear in several posts, I remember it as I am not a goldfish who has a 7 second memory. I accept that this is your position and understand it, I don't agree, but can we stop bringing it up every time you post?
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Ignoring the question says quite a bit.


FuzzNJ wrote:





What does it say?
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