vfrtwice
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:40:00 AM
Hello everyone! I am fairly new to Cbid, and new to this forum. I recently purchased an antique curio cabinet and plan to turn it into a display humidor. The inside of the cabinet is aprox 4ft long, 1 and 1/2ft deep, and 3ft tall. I plan on linning it with spanish cedar. I think the finished product will make a beautiful display humidor, with three shelves, able to hold upwards to 40 boxes of great smokes!(Yea, i know...the fun part is going to be filling the thing!! dont tell the wife!! haa haa) The cabinet as it is now, it very tight. When closing the glass door, you can feel all the air forcing itself out. The only concern i have is once all the spanish cedar pannels are installed, and the cabinet is fully lined that swelling may occur causing the once tight cabinet to crack and leak humidity. I am not sure to keep the pannles just shy of all the sides to allow for swelling, or to fit them tightly. I cannot forsee the cedar swelling to the point of forcing the origonal cabinet structure apart. But.. hey.. what do I know. lol. Im just a guy with antique cabinet,and a great idea!! 🙂 I sure can picture how good it will look full of cigars from Cbid! Any advice you guys can give me, would be a greatly appreciated.

thanks,

Keith

edbug
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:53:00 AM
VFRTWICE,

Check out the picture post, "still full", by mrs18delta, for a visual referance! !

WOW

vfrtwice
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:33:00 AM
Thats what i am shooting for! Sheer bliss. I got the cabinet for a mere $175.00 at a local antique mall here in Delaware Ohio. Considering the 1k to 6k option of retail display humidors, i thought this would be a good way to go. Lumber cost should not be over $150. If this one works out, i think I will make another one, place a few pics at the local cigar shop and see if it sells. A little profit on one, should allow me plenty of lots on Cbid to fill the other!!
xrundog
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:04:00 AM
I read somewhere that spanish cedar will expand approx. 1/32". If you use 1/4" cedar, the gap won't show. Is this a hardwood cabinet?
usahog
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:48:00 AM
vfrtwice, Welcome to CBid....

keep in mind what xrundog said above when you go to installing your ceder interior liner...

I would also like to add that when you prep the interior of your cabinet. before installing the ceder I would recommend using a water based poly to seal the entire interior woods here is what I use in my shop and it is waterbased biodegradable and leaves no odor or residue behind...

http://www.hardwoodfloor.com/loaditem.html?itempage=item115210861.html 

if you know anyone in the hardwood flooring business you could get a small amount, enough for your project from them.. or from a local flooring company for your project... may have to barter a few cigars ;0)

I would then prep the interior surface with steel wool to rough it abit.. and then apply the poly with a sponge brush... this will seal the interior and keep moisture from possibly building up into the original wood of your cabinet...then apply you SC...

just my .02 cents Good Luck on your project!!!

Hog

vfrtwice
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:17:00 AM
Hey guys,

thank you for your help. I would have never thought of preping the cabinet first. Definetly makes sense. I will let you all know how it turns out. I just got into the whole cigar thing last summer. My neighbor gave me two very nice humidors. Since i found Cbid, they are now full. Maxed out around 400 sticks. I had been druewling over some of the display humidors out there, but for the price, could go this route, have just as much storage and not have to spend near the cash! I am also somewhat worried about the glass. Most display humidors use "tempered" glass. What exactly is tempered glass, and will the standard glass in the cabinet suffice. Sorry for all the questions, i really would like this to turn out nice, and dont really have anywhere else to turn. (Figured you guys would know about as much as anyone). No one wants to dump 500 bucks into something and have it be a piece of crap! 🙂 thanks again

Keith

18delta
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:24:00 AM
usahog might have to help on this......... but before i put in the final spanish cedar, i used this paper backed spanish cedar vaneer? whatever it was called it is about 1/8" thick. then we lined it with spanish cedar boards........

you can open it and the whole room smells of spanish cedar................

usahog
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:49:00 AM
" Most display humidors use "tempered" glass. What exactly is tempered glass, and will the standard glass in the cabinet suffice."

Tempered glass:

http://www.alumaxbath.com/tech/tgp.htm 

Basically in your case it would be for safety reasons as it probably is for other construction purposes as well for cabinets... the website above explains it well... Unless you have small children that will be around this Cabinet quite a bit. I wouldn't worry about the glass, it wont take away or add to Humidity levels enough to worry... I would however make sure the trim around the glass or whatever it is holding it in place has a good seal?

Delta, I haven't seen much on spanish cedar veneers? I know someone makes spanish ceder ply, but have only seen it in 1/4" thickness's?? I had a company website for this a few years back but since have lost it.. my puter crashed and I lost all my previous favs sites...

do a search for Spanish Ceder Luan (sp) and you should be able to come up with something like Delta is talking about... check prices also.. because this stuff isn't cheap... and also when you get ready to install it... make sure you use an adhesive that is odor/residue free

Hog

18delta
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:25:00 PM
i ordered (2) 4 x 8 rolls of this stuff and it was so thin they rolled it up and sent it in a round tube.

threadjack on *****

usahog......check the trades board out

i guess the answer to my question #1 is no... ha ha

threadjack off***

usahog
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:50:00 PM
Sorry Delta I missed the question?? LOL

I guess it was have I or do I use this type SC?? No

never even heard of it until now.... Trades board??

you gotta link over there??

TIA

Hog

gonesledn
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:51:00 PM
hey hog,

if you are looking for it, or anyone else, here is a link... www.rockler.com

all kinds of woodworking materials and tools.

wes

gonesledn
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:53:00 PM
www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=833

...item link on the site

wes

usahog
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:18:00 PM
Thanks Wes... I am always surfing the Rockler site and that is the first time I've seen that offered!!!

Cool...

Hog

gonesledn
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:51:00 PM
your welcome, i myself never saw it till i started getting there papare catalog.

wes

gonesledn
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:51:00 PM
ummm "paper"
Zigmund
Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:54:00 PM
vfrtwice,

when I lived in Delaware, Ohio the only cigar shop in the town was the News Shop. Not much in the way of selection, the owner was a Dutch Master guy. Moved away in 88. Good luck with your project.

vfrtwice
Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:08:00 AM
Thanks to everyone for the help! All this info is going to come in very useful. Definetly quite a bit more work than i initially expected. I think the final result will be well worth it.

Zigmund: funny you mentioned the NEWS SHOP. He actually just closed his doors a couple of weeks ago.(before cbid i went to TIMBA in Powell) I have been trying to get in touch with him because he is selling all of his fixures. ie.. cigar display cases, possibe humidificaiton devices for dirt cheap. I was going to post his number for anyone in the area(Delaware, Columbus ohio) that may be interested in his sale. His number has since been shut off, but i will keep stopping by to see if i can catch him. THANKS AGIAN!!