Watched Paul on meet the depressed this weekend. My wife said... and I quote.... I don't know who that guy is but he is wrong in the head. There is just something wrong with him.

He is messed up. I agree with some of his ideas but taken in his entirety he is messed up.

teedubbya wrote:

I've already done this dance with Wheel and all he could do was accuse me of being uninformed and cut and paste a bunch of crap that was proven wrong back in 2008.

TW, please elaborate on "taken in his entirety he is messed up".

borndead1 wrote:

Bro,,

I luv ya but,you think an income of $380k is middle class..

You really should learn more Paul..

He's really not what you Elmer Fudd sychophants think that he is,,,

Truth be told,
all he is doing now is setting the table for his son.

wheelrite wrote:

Wheel, did you even READ wtf I said in that thread? I said that if it were truly "the rich" who pay all the taxes, that top 1% tier would start at 2-3 million, not 380,000. 380K ain't sh*t.

When it comes to RP and a lot of the political threads lately, all you do is repeat yourself. "You're uninformed"..."You really should learn more"...but you aren't SAYING anything. You cut and paste and make vague accusations/statements.

Do you honestly think I believe that RP would beat Obama if he got the nomination? The media would crucify him. RP would not beat Obama. But you know what would happen? Soon after Obama's 2nd term started, and sh*t kept getting worse and worse, maybe...just maybe...people would stop and think, "Hey...maybe that Ron Paul guy wasn't as much of a kook as the media made him out to be" and they would start to THINK about sh*t. They would start to think about where big government and costly foreign alliances have gotten us. They would start to think that maybe it's time to try something different.

borndead1 wrote:

Different is not always better as we saw in the last election. -- Obama wasn't different. Why do you think everything is still so f*cked up?

Pauls foreign policy views would be a disaster for us. -- Please explain how minding our own business, not spending billions in tax dollars propping up corrupt regimes, and not trying to police the world would be a disaster for us.

He advocates that ALL illicit drugs be legalized. -- And that's just crazy, because the "war on drugs" has been a cracking success, just like the war on poverty, right? It's not about drugs, it's about LIBERTY, freedom of choice, privacy, and property rights. The same logic applies to gun rights!

He is an anti semite -- You keep saying this and offer nothing to back it up. RP advocates stopping all foreign aid, and since that would include Israel, he's an anti Semite? Come on, bro.

All the RP potheads should put the bong down and pay attention.. -- I'm not a pothead. I haven't taken a hit off a joint in at least 12 or 13 years, and I would bet money that you consume waaaaaay more alcohol than I do. I AM paying attention. Are you? With all the other GOP candidates we would get more of the same. We've already tried all that bullsh*t. And look where it's gotten us.

wheelrite wrote:

Ok,,,

1, Ron Paul supporters are much like OWS'ers. It all looks good on a protest sign or a sound bite,but when put to practical use it's just not so simple.Like abolishing the Fed.Sounds,good but would decimate the remainder of the economy. -- Yeah, it would probably hurt pretty bad for a year or so. But leaving the bullet in the wound and bleeding to death slowly sucks way worse than the pain of yanking the bullet out and cauterizing the wound.

2,You can ignore his anti semitic views if you choose ,but go back and read what he has written. -- Again with this BS, and again...you found some crap that wasn't even written by him, back from the early 90s, that was debunked during the 2008 campaign.

3, Your moronic comparison of Gun Rights and Drug Leagalization speaks for it's self. -- Again you make a statement without saying anything. Was the prohibition of alcohol successful? Do you consider the drug war to be a success? Billions upon billions of dollars spent, hundreds of thousands of people in jail, and the number of drug users is roughly the same today as it was 30 years ago. FDA approved prescription drugs kill more people than illegal street drugs, and if you factor in alcohol and tobacco, there's no comparison. Criminalization has not stopped drug use, and legalization would not create more addicts or crime. The addicts and the crime are already there, despite all the laws, all the raids, all the prisons, all the billions of dollars. If all drugs were legalized tomorrow, would you become a crackhead or heroin junkie? Prohibition laws don't work. All prohibition laws do is create black markets, violent crime, and corruption at every level of government and law enforcement. It is simple economics. If there is a demand, there will be a supply. And it absolutely IS comparable to gun rights. It's a personal choice/privacy/property rights issue. I assume you are not a fan of the ObamaCare provision that requires people by law to have health insurance...so flip the coin..why are you a fan of government dictating what people can and can't put in their bodies?

4, Congrats on giving up weed.I stopped when I became a responsible adult. Btw, don't be so sure about how much alcohol I consume.


5,
Pollyanna was a fool...



wheel,,

wheelrite wrote:

P.S. Wheel, you are alright man. I'd like to sit down and have a smoke with you any day. But if that happens, let's talk about boobs instead of politics. Deal?

borndead1 wrote:

"Hey...maybe that Ron Paul guy wasn't as much of a kook as the media made him out to be" and they would start to THINK about sh*t. They would start to think about where big government and costly foreign alliances have gotten us. They would start to think that maybe it's time to try something different.

borndead1 wrote:

Different is not always better as we saw in the last election.
Pauls foreign policy views would be a disaster for us.
He advocates that ALL illicit drugs be legalized. He is an anti semite and is not what this country needs,to name a couple issues.

All the RP potheads should put the bong down and pay attention..

wheelrite wrote:

I've already done this dance with Wheel and all he could do was accuse me of being uninformed and cut and paste a bunch of crap that was proven wrong back in 2008.

TW, please elaborate on "taken in his entirety he is messed up".

borndead1 wrote: