Ah, but what can you say about any religion that preaches hatred? And the hatred is often taught in subtle and insidious way. “you know, those that accept (insert deity here) as our lord are immoral, and are the enemy of redemption”.

But in the end, you have to pick a belief system. Lets face it – You can't win if you don't play.

Brewha wrote:

what does liberalism have to do with this speaker.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

Rick,

He makes the point that secular liberals often take the side of the Palestinian people against Israel and thus become the tools of islamic terrorism. This is true because the islamic world wants to wipe Israel off the map, not just find a home for the Palestinian people.

[color=indigo]Ironically, like the post WWII world that for the most part refused to offer a place for the Jewish people, the Arab world has also refused to offer a place for the displaced Palestinian people

Gene363 wrote:

The post WWII world did offer a place for the Jewish people. It followed the "Not In My Back Yard" principle. It was, however, in the Palestinians' back yard.

Nobody is offering a place for the displaced ethnic Serbians that were run out of Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo with NATO and US military air support.

Nobody is offering a place for the Kurds.


Generally, displacing people is frowned upon. Finding new places instead of the right of return for refugees is also frowned upon. Generally!

HockeyDad wrote:

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Nothing like INVITING HockeyDad in to your thread. Kiss your original intent good-bye!

rfenst wrote:

I should have said:

Ironically, the post WWII world, including countries in which the Jews were living before being shipped to various concentration camps, refused to offer a place for the Jewish people, the Arab world has also refused to offer a place for the displaced Palestinian people.

Gene363 wrote:

Gene,

I hope you are not criticizing Europe for not creating an Israel in the Ruhr valley or something. Only the President of Iran openly says that kind of stuff.

The Jews did have the right to return from the camps. Many didn't wat to for understandable reasons.

The gypsies also were devasted and didn't get a country. Sucks for them.

HockeyDad wrote:

You need to read a little more about post WWII, the allies essentially painted over the death camp signs, with Repatriation Camp and continued to hold the inmates. They did feed and clothe them a little better though. Some did not want to return for obvious reasons, it was also made clear they were not welcome.

Gene363 wrote:

If that indeed was the situation, why were the Palestinians chosen to suffer for it? This is the point Ahmadinejad has made on a number of occasions.

HockeyDad wrote:

God created man, and He gave man the Law.

MAN created religion in an effort to control other men's hearts, minds and pocketbooks.

I believe in God. I do not believe in organized religion. ✋

MACS wrote: