jackconrad
Wednesday, November 9, 2011 11:15:29 PM
Joe was a Scapegoat. Penn State is a Taxpayer funded school, if they are sued the Taxpayers pay..
JTokash
Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:39:43 AM

Joe was a Scapegoat. Penn State is a Taxpayer funded school, if they are sued the Taxpayers pay..

jackconrad wrote:

Damn straight.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:47:13 AM

Joe was a Scapegoat. Penn State is a Taxpayer funded school, if they are sued the Taxpayers pay..

jackconrad wrote:

Really?

I firmly believe he was complicit in what the university was doing. Covering it up.

Oh, he did report it but when it went nowhere what did he do? NOTHING.

A man of integrity doesn't let one of his assistants rape little boys in his locker room.

A man of integrity doesn't hire someone who witnessed a kid getting raped in his coach's locker room.

JoePedo needs to go.

For the kids.

rfenst
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:49:45 AM

Joe was a Scapegoat. Penn State is a Taxpayer funded school, if they are sued the Taxpayers pay..

jackconrad wrote:

If it was culpable, why shouldn't it pay?

wheelrite
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:57:12 AM

Joe was a Scapegoat. Penn State is a Taxpayer funded school, if they are sued the Taxpayers pay..

jackconrad wrote:

It's no different than someone suing a Police Dept for a rogue Officer that abuses a person. If the Police Dept loses the suit,they pay.

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:04:12 AM

Check out the story on WPXI ,concerning the then former DA who was investigating Sandusky back in 2005 about the same accusations ,made the decision NOT to bring charges against Sandusky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????? Then his car was found next to the river near Harrisburg,his body was never found and the hard drive in his laptop destroyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? He was just recently declared legally dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF happened back then???? They may reopen that investigation also??????!!!!!

wvwa34 wrote:

They are looking at that cold case now!=d>

kpacedo
Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:19:46 PM
The most damning peice of info to me is that a grad student adult notified him that he sees sandusky sodomising a child, and he is still allowed to be part of the uni with benefits plus the kiddy program. For another decade.

If I see my best friend molesting a child, guess what, friendship over! That crosses all lines. Im probably physically going to hurt them, then call cops, then call everybody...

8trackdisco
Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:40:05 PM

Really?

Oh, he did report it but when it went nowhere what did he do? NOTHING.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

What I've learned in 20 years of corporate America is you report the issue as best you can (something I don't think Joe did) and then let them handle (or not) handle it. You don't go back and say to your boss or boss's boss and say "Well, did you do something about that?"

If the boss or boss's boss does or doesn't take action, they wouldn't be able to share that with you anyway because it would all be under the umbrella of confidentiality.

Pre-corporate (1980s) it would have been easily solved by taking a metal pipe and putting a moderate to severe beating on Sandusky and then let him make the next move. Either he....

A- Explains how and why he got the beating.

B- Get the hell out of town.

But those were simpler days. Now we have to think about the perv's feelings and whether he may have a mental disease or defect. Maybe councilling, because he needs treatment, not prison. Blah..... blah.......... .... blah.

DrafterX
Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:49:19 PM
you're right 8... the bassard is definetly sick or something but he apparently didn't feel any remorse about what he did... it would be much easier to just take a steel pipe to him but he will be evaluated by shrinks and stuff for years I'm sure... maybe he'll just off himself... 😟
bloody spaniard
Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:10:08 PM
All the more reason why one shouldn't leave children in the care of (same sex) homosexuals.
DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:12:10 PM
Madden: Sandusky a State secret

Happy Valley

Jerry Sandusky and Joe Paterno during better days.

. Posted: Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:55 pm | Updated: 4:34 pm, Mon Apr 4, 2011.

Madden: Sandusky a State secret Mark Madden Timesonline.com | 15 comments

The Jerry Sandusky situation seems a matter of failure to connect certain dots, or perhaps unwillingness in that regard. Lots of people besides the former Penn State defensive coordinator have some explaining to do.

Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State. That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.

Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely, openly-discussed successor.

It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did they know it?

Best-case scenario: Charges are never brought, and Sandusky walks away with his reputation permanently scarred. The rumors, the jokes, the sideways glances - they won't ever stop. Paterno and Penn State do the great escape.

Worst-case scenario: Sandusky is charged. Then it seems reasonable to wonder: Did Penn State not make an issue of Sandusky's alleged behavior in 1998 in exchange for him walking away from the program at an age premature for most coaches? Did Penn State's considerable influence help get Sandusky off the hook?

Don't kid yourself. That could happen. Don't underestimate the power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it comes to politicians, the police and the media.

In 1999, Penn State was rid of Sandusky. His rep was unblemished, which allowed him to continue running a charitable foundation that gave him access to underage males. To be a volunteer assistant with a high school football team, thus gaining access to underage males.

If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for untoward acts since committed by Sandusky?

This is far from an outrageous hypothesis, especially given the convenient timeline.

Initially accused in 1998. Retires in 1999. Never coaches college football again. Sandusky was very successful at what he did. The architect of Linebacker U. Helped win national championships in 1982 and 1986. Recognized as college football's top assistant in 1986 and 1999.

Never any stories about Sandusky being pursued for a high-profile job. Never any rumors about him coming out of retirement.

But there's no shortage of stories and rumors about Penn State football sweeping problems under the rug, is there?

Why did college football let an accomplished coach like Sandusky walk away at 55? Why did he disappear into relative anonymity?

A grand jury, spurred by a complaint made by a 15-year-old boy in 2009, has been investigating Sandusky for 18 months. Witnesses include Paterno and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley. Interviewing Paterno about a subject like this had to have been one of the single most uncomfortable acts in the history of jurisprudence.

Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of a few kids?

You might not want to hear the answer.

Mark Madden hosts a radio show 3-6 p.m. weekdays on WXDX-FM (105.9).

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:20:33 PM

What I've learned in 20 years of corporate America is you report the issue as best you can (something I don't think Joe did) and then let them handle (or not) handle it. You don't go back and say to your boss or boss's boss and say "Well, did you do something about that?"

If the boss or boss's boss does or doesn't take action, they wouldn't be able to share that with you anyway because it would all be under the umbrella of confidentiality.

Pre-corporate (1980s) it would have been easily solved by taking a metal pipe and putting a moderate to severe beating on Sandusky and then let him make the next move. Either he....

A- Explains how and why he got the beating.

B- Get the hell out of town.

But those were simpler days. Now we have to think about the perv's feelings and whether he may have a mental disease or defect. Maybe councilling, because he needs treatment, not prison. Blah..... blah.......... .... blah.

8trackdisco wrote:

Really?

Not me. That's not the way I'm wired. If for instance I'm a head coach of a pretty prominent program and on my way towards Football immortality (for the RIGHT reasons) and it's brought to my attention by one of my players that they saw a young boy getting anally raped in the showers by one of my assistants...I would've handled much better than JoePedo did. I would've handled it better than the player that let Sandusky "finish out" and then run to JoePedo too. Instead, JoePedo reports it and they do nothing? Nothing. Nothing the way you're willing to give him the cover for. No. Not by NCAA rules...not by decency...not for the sake of being a man. You see something like that going on you report it. If they want to cover it...you report THEM! You don't lie around and look over your shoulder as his assistant that you know is raping little boys brings in another buffet of ass for him to rape. More victims and keep quiet? We're talking about YEARS of victims. Only the Catholic church has seen more male rapings! No, nothing isn't an option.

The rest of the post made me laugh because of they way you worded it. However, a mighty waterfall starts with one drop. That player that decided to let Sandusky "finish out" could've reported the manner to authorities as well. He didn't. He went to his head coach. The culpability starts and ends somewhere.

You don't associate with unsavory characters or allow them to desecrate your "house"!

teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:28:16 PM

What I've learned in 20 years of corporate America is you report the issue as best you can (something I don't think Joe did) and then let them handle (or not) handle it. You don't go back and say to your boss or boss's boss and say "Well, did you do something about that?"

If the boss or boss's boss does or doesn't take action, they wouldn't be able to share that with you anyway because it would all be under the umbrella of confidentiality.

Pre-corporate (1980s) it would have been easily solved by taking a metal pipe and putting a moderate to severe beating on Sandusky and then let him make the next move. Either he....

A- Explains how and why he got the beating.

B- Get the hell out of town.

But those were simpler days. Now we have to think about the perv's feelings and whether he may have a mental disease or defect. Maybe councilling, because he needs treatment, not prison. Blah..... blah.......... .... blah.

8trackdisco wrote:

Your experience is different than my 25+ years of corporate, not for profit, and government experience. It would never be an option to me just to report something of this magnitude (a child taking it in the butt in the shower room) to someone in my company then wash my hands of it. My boss would never dictate to me whether I could/should report a criminal offense to the police or not. They have simply never held that sort of authority over me. That is a truly bizaar business culture in which I would not remain for long.

That said, JoPa was not a nameless faceless corporate slug swimming up the corporate downstream. My guess is the Uni Prez was more powerful in title only for a great deal of Joe's time there.

DrafterX
Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:31:12 PM
I would bet silence was bought one way or another from all involved... 😟
teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:34:27 PM
I'm a mid level manager. An employee of mine (or volunteer worker) walks into the company restroom and sees the workers comp claims guy age 30ish (or ex workers comp claims guy who is now just a volunteer)) doing an 8-10 year old in the butt (with rythmic slapping sounds according to the report). Said employe reports it to me. I report it to my boss and am done with it?

nope

DrafterX
Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:46:47 PM

I'm a mid level manager. An employee of mine (or volunteer worker) walks into the company restroom and sees the workers comp claims guy age 30ish (or ex workers comp claims guy who is now just a volunteer)) doing an 8-10 year old in the butt (with rythmic slapping sounds according to the report). Said employe reports it to me. I report it to my boss and am done with it?

nope

teedubbya wrote:

you'd think not... suppose you were 70 years old and about to forced out the door at half or less than your salary.. you see this and all of a sudden you don't have to retire and you don't really even have to work anymore.. just show up and look important every now and then.... and above all don't mention it to anyone else... after all, it wasn't yor kid and stuff... 😟

no, I couldn't be bought... but I think he was... 🤐

yardobeef
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:04:33 PM

...a child taking it in the butt in the shower room) to someone in my company then wash my hands of it....

teedubbya wrote:

Am I the only one who's relieved that hands were washed afterward?

teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:13:04 PM

no, I couldn't be bought... but I think he was... 🤐

DrafterX wrote:

That is actually being sympathetic. By guess is he drove things around there. He is not a follower.

teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:13:49 PM

Am I the only one who's relieved that hands were washed afterward?

yardobeef wrote:

at least they are worried about the spread of disease and stuff=d>

DrafterX
Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:21:27 PM

That is actually being sympathetic. By guess is he drove things around there. He is not a follower.

teedubbya wrote:

:-k so you're saying Joe ordered the hit on the DA..?? 😕