dubleuhb
14 years ago
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-23/south-carolina-voter-id/52195924/1 

On Friday before Christmas while nobody is watching, so transparent are we.
Lets see, you need an ID to cash a check, buy some booze, get a real job, buy cigs and so many other things but you can just walk up and vote, nice call again by the chicken in chief.
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DadZilla3
14 years ago

The Justice Department in its ruling said the law makes it harder for minorities to cast ballots. Without the right ID, tens of thousands of minorities in the state might not be able to vote, the Justice Department said.



Translation: The Justice Department in its ruling said the law makes it harder for illegal aliens and fraudulent repeat voters to cast ballots. Without the right ID, tens of thousands of illegal aliens and repeat voters in the state might not be able to cast their fraudulent ballots for Democratic candidates, the Justice Department said.
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Humastronaut
14 years ago
F Holder and the DOJ!!!!!!
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rfenst
14 years ago
It is totally preposterous to think this ever could be buried. It was noted/reported by every major news media source, including supposed "liberal" sources like: NY Times, NPR and CSNBC.

There is an interesting historical parallel. Post Civil War Jim Crow laws required blacks to sign there names to vote. Many or most had never learned to read or right and couldn't do so- hence they could not vote.

This one belongs before the SCOTUS, which I would expect to Rule well b/f the 2012 elections.
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rfenst
14 years ago

F Holder and the DOJ!!!!!!

Humastronaut wrote:



You would prefer John Ashcroft?
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dubleuhb
14 years ago
It was done on the friday before Christmas, this was no accident.
There is no reason why someone shouldn't have to prove who they are to vote. Those not wanting it have used your parallel to bring the race card into this and the Jacksons and Sharpstons of the world have jumped on the train with joy to keep their argument alive. It is not difficult to get an ID now so that doesn't fly, sorry. This is simply another slap in the face to every hard working American who gets up every day goes to work, pays their taxes and wants a better life for their kids. It's a shame people can't see this for what it is.

John Ashcroft ? So what your saying is just because you didn't like this guy it is OK to have an incompetent murderer in there now?
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Mrs.Tank
14 years ago
Wisconsin recently passed legislation that requires i.d. to vote.

About darned time.


I need an id to buy spray paint, some medications, and alcohol. You need it to get on a plane, or even buy cigarettes some places.


Requiring an id to vote only makes sense.


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dubleuhb
14 years ago

Wisconsin recently passed legislation that requires i.d. to vote.

About darned time.


I need an id to buy spray paint, some medications, and alcohol. You need it to get on a plane, or even buy cigarettes some places.


Requiring an id to vote only makes sense.


Mrs.Tank wrote:


Holder and his minions will be along soon.[ram27bat]
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Humastronaut
14 years ago

You would prefer John Ashcroft?

rfenst wrote:



I'd prefer a dept that did their job without making politics, race, etc. the guiding factor in who they go after. So I guess I'll have to wait for another life. BTW I hate both sides of our corrupt azz govt. so I can't be baited that easily but it was a nice try.=d>
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ZRX1200
14 years ago
Holder needs to resign.


He is responsible for deaths in his attempts to further gun control. He's ignored voter intimidation by racists. And he's lied.


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FuzzNJ
14 years ago
These laws would disenfranchise the people who have the least power already, so of course democrats don't propose these things since they tend to focus more on that segment already and they get their votes at a high percentage. The legislatures that propose these laws know that as well and you'll see they are all Republican. Sure no one wants voter fraud and this seems to make sense, but its relults are worse than the intention, as long as the intention was voter fraud and not disenfranchisement, which I doubt.
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FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Holder needs to resign.


He is responsible for deaths in his attempts to further gun control. He's ignored voter intimidation by racists. And he's lied.


ZRX1200 wrote:



The Philly thing again/still? Dude, the Bush Justice department didn't want to prosecute them. Remember there were 2 months from that day 'til Obama was president.
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DrafterX
14 years ago
🤔 so republicans can only vote once but them dems can vote at will..?? 😕
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DrafterX
14 years ago
🤦
my bad... dems don't have to vote... someone will do that for them... 🤦
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FuzzNJ
14 years ago

:-k so republicans can only vote once but them dems can vote at will..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:



Yes, that's exactly how it's being sold. Truth is voter fraud like this, from individuals, is an extremely small problem. Election fraud is a much bigger problem and one that could affect election results.
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rfenst
14 years ago

It was done on the friday before Christmas, this was no accident.
There is no reason why someone shouldn't have to prove who they are to vote. Those not wanting it have used your parallel to bring the race card into this and the Jacksons and Sharpstons of the world have jumped on the train with joy to keep their argument alive. It is not difficult to get an ID now so that doesn't fly, sorry. This is simply another slap in the face to every hard working American who gets up every day goes to work, pays their taxes and wants a better life for their kids. It's a shame people can't see this for what it is.

John Ashcroft ? So what your saying is just because you didn't like this guy it is OK to have an incompetent murderer in there now?

dubleuhb wrote:



First, John Ashcroft: He made my blood boil. I think he was dangerous to our democracy and welfare.

Second: I just don't understand why anyone should ascribe motive to the release date. Motive doesn't matter here. The law is all that will count.

Third, my reference to Jim Crow was intended solely to point out that SCOTUS has done the right thing on voting matters in the past- and I believe it will again on this issue.

Last, and most important make no mistake here: I am of the opinion that requiring ID at the polls seems reasonable to me. Helping those without it obtain proper ID so that they can vote sounds like a great idea. But, I don't want matters like this decided by DOJ or any legislature. I want the SCOTUS to lay down the law on this one once and for all. Both the right to vote and a clean vote is the heart of our democracy.

(Focus on the law, not the emotion-stirring crap like Jackson and Sharpton, hard working Americans, who go to work every day and who pay their taxes and want a better life for their kids, have absolutely nothing to do with the core of this. They just muddy the discussion).
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dubleuhb
14 years ago
Holder and his DOJ is the one guilty of making this about race. How is it racist to have to show proof of who you are to vote? What kind of person has no way to identify them self? You need one to do just about anything these days. They picked this state because they (the dems) have a very slim chance of winning this state and want to set precedent without pissing of any of their base.

Holder should have resigned for his gun running blunder but Obama needs a yes man in there so he will not force him to even though there is growing support for his removal due to incompetence.

If you think doing something like this on a Friday before Christmas holiday weekend is just coincidence think again, these kind of shenanagans have been played out many times before by both sides. Yes it is reported but who's paying attention ?
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dubleuhb
14 years ago

Holder needs to resign.


He is responsible for deaths in his attempts to further gun control. He's ignored voter intimidation by racists. And he's lied.


ZRX1200 wrote:


It's not just the Black Panther thing Fuzz, there is this little thing down on the southern border that has caused the death of a border agent and who knows how many others with his little gun running scheme. He just can't seem to get his story straight or remember when he knew what about anything, hence the incompetence thingy.
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Papachristou
14 years ago
I dont understand how it is racist to verify identification to vote. you have to have an ID or DL to do or get anything, including their government checks. lets see, drive, DL reqired, buy beer, cigs, etc, DL/ID required, cash a check/withdraw money-ID required, rent a car-DL required. i am getting sooo tired of hearing about race!

how do these laws disenfranchise anyone? an ID is required to get government money isnt it? you just present a form of id, whether it's a DL, ID, birth certificate, passport etc. if a police office stops me walking down the street and i dont have some form of ID, i will probably be arrested.
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FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I dont understand how it is racist to verify identification to vote. you have to have an ID or DL to do or get anything, including their government checks. lets see, drive, DL reqired, buy beer, cigs, etc, DL/ID required, cash a check/withdraw money-ID required, rent a car-DL required. i am getting sooo tired of hearing about race!

how do these laws disenfranchise anyone? an ID is required to get government money isnt it? you just present a form of id, whether it's a DL, ID, birth certificate, passport etc. if a police office stops me walking down the street and i dont have some form of ID, i will probably be arrested.

Papachristou wrote:




Here's the thing. There are a lot of people who don't do those things because they don't have the money. And you can't be arrested for not having an ID when walking, yet.
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