MichaelsGC
Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:20:00 PM
I've been a long time user of C-Bid and reader of the forum, but this is actually my first post...I wish it could have been on better terms. My question is in regards to the Drew Estate "Natural" line wrapper. I was wondering if any of you have had problems with the wrapper splitting on any of the "Natural" line smokes? I've smoked a few different cigars off that line, i.e. The Dirt, Root, and Root Deluxe. I love the line, but get frustrated when the wrapper is splitting when smoked or comes split in the tube/package. What kind of wrapper do they put on them, and why are they so thin? The construction just seems poor most of the time with them. Any help or explanation would greatly be appreciated. I will always be a Drew Estate fan though, but am looking for some answers. Hope you are all surviving your smokes in this cold weather. Thanks!
Slimboli
Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:34:00 PM
Connecticut "shade" tobacco is so called because it is grown under large tents that protect the leaves from the sun. Grown in direct sunlight, the leaf would be coarse and tough.

But by shading it, effectively the sunlight is filtered, yielding a thinner, more elastic leaf that cures to a lighter, even color. Today, shade-grown Connecticut wrapper leaf is one of the world's most expensive agricultural commodities. Since the wrapper provides a major portion of a cigar's taste, what is it about this region that makes this leaf so sought after?

For one, it's gorgeous. Aesthetically, the sight of the silky, smooth, thin and elastic look of Connecticut shade wrappers is beyond compare. Another is the even burn. The thin, elastic nature of this leaf offers a smooth, slow and even burn and gives a cigar balance.

Wrappers That split are typically caused by cigars which have experienced cycles of being over-humidified and then under-humidified.

It is the end result of the cigar's wrapper being stretched by the expanding filler when moist and the subsequent shrinkage when it dries. Basically they are just like "stretch marks."

These are very common in vintage cigars even if kept within ideal conditions. Over time the continuous shifting of a couple of points of %RH will result in wrinkles.

Also, this is not that uncommon in cooledors since the humidity tends to shoot up and down drastically with opening and closing. Unlike a wooden humidor, a cooler's plastic is unable to retain an ambient RH. The longer a cigar has been stored the more likely wrinkles and splitting are to occur.

Wrappers will become more brittle as the wrinkling continues to occur and may eventually lead to cracking and splitting.

MichaelsGC
Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:56:00 PM
Thank you for the quick response Slimboli...I see your responses on the forum all the time. I guess I should have just asked you first. Thanks again.

Regards,

MichaelsGC

countryboy83
Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:26:00 PM
I love pimp sticks... they piss me off though for this very reason!

Country

eric1989
Sunday, January 23, 2005 6:27:00 PM
It is really cold here in MI right now. Wrappers split more often when smoked at 70% outdoors, then the ones that are 65-68%, in this cold weather. I've been smoking gars at 67-68%, and having no problems on any wrapper types.

Is this a cold/outdoor problem, or is it happening indoors at normal temps?

Tazziedevil
Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:48:00 PM
I've also noticed problems with alot of the entire Drew Estate line-Ambrosia, Natural and La Vieja Habana. The cigars taste wonderful, but either the wrapper unravels, or the burn gets so off it has to be nubbed out. I've written and called Drew Estate but have gotten no reply...Haven't bought any DE products lately because I don't feel like taking a gamble on whether it will burn well or not...
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Monday, January 24, 2005 4:22:00 PM
I also love the pimp sticks but won't buy them because the wrappers are too fragile.
Sfraun04
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:55:00 AM
I've had some in the Natural line give me trouble with splitting. I figured it just had to do with how they come (the ends are not cut perfectly clean but left frayed) and how the wrapper feels. It never gave me a terrible problem that I could not get through, just could never nub them if I wanted to. Never a problem with the La Viejas.
Tazziedevil
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:03:00 PM
With the La Vieja, it's been more of a burn problem, since the wrappers are pretty sturdy. I know there mixed filler, I wonder if they weren't bunched properly when being rolled? But then again, its hard to see how an entire box and then a few singles could ALL have burn problems....
Tazziedevil
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:03:00 PM
With the La Vieja, it's been more of a burn problem, since the wrappers are pretty sturdy. I know there mixed filler, I wonder if they weren't bunched properly when being rolled? But then again, its hard to see how an entire box and then a few singles could ALL have burn problems....
Charlie
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:06:00 PM
I simply avoid all Drew products!

Charlie