I assume you mean "if they're not here legally". A lot of people are not "legal citizens" yet have come here through the proper channels.

If they are indeed illegal, then the hotels themselves should be punished for hiring them.

tailgater wrote:

White Broads rarely clean their own homes..

They pay Pedro's wife under the table to do it...

wheelrite wrote:

I guess you didn't read my full post....yes of course that's what I meant.

TMCTLT wrote:

The way I see it- if you live in another country, you should be afforded some sort of protection. If you're going to draw a line on what protection is given to a non-citizen, where do you put it?

And the courts want no part in checking for citizenship for every case, especially if it doesnt matter. Could you imagine the extra paperwork? The waste in taxpayer dollars?

If you lived in another country, possibly even as a citizen, but appeared to be foriegn to the locals, would you want to be required to prove your legal right to be there several times a day, to anyone that deemed you suspect?

The assumption is that they were legally working, which is the responsibility of the hotel. A separate organization can investigate and bring charges against the hotel, and may still do so.

Just quick thoughts typed on a phone.

z6joker9 wrote:

There are certain minimum standards that all people who are in the USA are entitled to regardless of their legal status. if these workers were working illegally, they should be paid the greater of the law or what they were promised. If they are here illegally, deport them. The hotel, if complicit in any illegality, should be penalized. I just don't like the possibility of any U.S business benefiting from knowingly employing illegal workers by not paying or under-paying them- and then getting away with it because the workers won't come forward out of fear of deportation.

rfenst wrote:

There are certain minimum standards that all people who are in the USA are entitled to regardless of their legal status. if these workers were working illegally, they should be paid the greater of the law or what they were promised. If they are here illegally, deport them. The hotel, if complicit in any illegality, should be penalized. I just don't like the possibility of any U.S business benefiting from knowingly employing illegal workers by not paying or under-paying them- and then getting away with it because the workers won't come forward out of fear of deportation.

rfenst wrote:

We need to grant amnesty to the employer so they can refill the job with a legal worker.

Amnesty now!

HockeyDad wrote:

what's the upgrade from Latinos..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

If the worker is here illegally, then they shouldn't be due anything.
Sure, the hotel may have screwed them out of some promised wages, but by applying for a job without at least a work visa, the worker is lying to the hotel to begin with.

I agree with dealing with both the illegal and the employer.

tailgater wrote:

Why should the hotel profit by not paying, even if the worker was illegally employed w/o the employer's knowledge? On the other hand, why should the employee benefit by working illegally (and possibly lying or providing fraudulent documents)?

It just seems to me that the agreement is labor for pay.

How about pay them for their labor and seize their pay as part of the penalty for working illegally and for the cost of detention and deportation?


This is really another important social policy issue- with no empirically right answer.

rfenst wrote: