TarponMan
14 years ago
All bickering about Ron Paul aside, even he said he can't really picture himself in the White House.

He has strong opinions, and noble convictions, but it seems obvious this is a vanity effort on his part, and as humble as he may seem, only an individual with a giant ego would subject themselves to the scrutiny and endless aggrevation of a presidential campaign.

Further, if Paul were elected, he would be 77 years old when he was inaugurated. Reagan was considered pretty old when he took office. He was 70. Consider how rapidly presidents age in office. In one term, Paul would have the appearance of a mummie, at best.

Finally, if he was bold enough to attempt a third pary run for president, he would get a sufficient number of votes from the Republican candidate to assure Obama's re-election.

Other than that, I guess he's OK.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

All bickering about Ron Paul aside, even he said he can't really picture himself in the White House.

He has strong opinions, and noble convictions, but it seems obvious this is a vanity effort on his part, and as humble as he may seem, only an individual with a giant ego would subject themselves to the scrutiny and endless aggrevation of a presidential campaign.

Further, if Paul were elected, he would be 77 years old when he was inaugurated. Reagan was considered pretty old when he took office. He was 70. Consider how rapidly presidents age in office. In one term, Paul would have the appearance of a mummie, at best.

Finally, if he was bold enough to attempt a third pary run for president, he would get a sufficient number of votes from the Republican candidate to assure Obama's re-election.

Other than that, I guess he's OK.

TarponMan wrote:




The similarities are there...Reagan and Paul. I really don't think it's a vanity issue. His books read like Thomas Paine's. From the hip and chock full of common sense. No grey areas to ponder. This is his 3rd run for the office so that ties him with Joe Walsh. and Pat Paulson.

There was a recent study about how President's age...

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2011-12-06/Study-Presidents-live-longer-than-men-of-their-times/51677818/1 

So we can dismiss that one!

If I'm not mistaken he's said he's not seeking a 3rd party ticket already.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

While we're getting rid of everything we should go back in time 250 years or so. -- Typical uber-reactionary kneejerk response, akin to Christians who think people will marry their dog if gay marriage is legalized.

That's when this isolationist policy might have worked. -- Isolationism is not the same thing as non-interventionism.

it would cripple the US economy -- Ummmm...it's not crippled now? Hello? 14 trillion dollars in debt?

One good thing is that at that point people would turn to a more socialist government. -- Yeah, that's worked out really well for Europe. Just ask the 7 countries that are going bankrupt.

borndead1 wrote:




So the US economy is bankrupt because of our 14 trillion debt, but we have Capitalism. Europe is going bankrupt because of socialism. China is booming and they are communist. And somehow that has to make sense in order for us to believe our bs system is best.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

The similarities are there...Reagan and Paul. I really don't think it's a vanity issue. His books read like Thomas Paine's. From the hip and chock full of common sense. No grey areas to ponder. This is his 3rd run for the office so that ties him with Joe Walsh. and Pat Paulson.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Paul and Reagan are similar? lmfao
borndead1
14 years ago

So the US economy is bankrupt because of our 14 trillion debt, but we have Capitalism. Europe is going bankrupt because of socialism. China is booming and they are communist. And somehow that has to make sense in order for us to believe our bs system is best.

FuzzNJ wrote:




We don't practice anything even remotely close to Capitalism in this country. Nor does China practice true Communism.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Paul and Reagan are similar? lmfao

FuzzNJ wrote:




Don't you have some carrots to lick?

Yeah...similarities are there. Laugh all you want. You're only making yourself out to be the board's biggest idiot with each rectal itching post at a time!
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

We don't practice anything even remotely close to Capitalism in this country. Nor does China practice true Communism.

borndead1 wrote:



So, no country has ever had a 'pure' economic system. Europe isn't perfect socialism either even though it's not on the extreme sides like communism and capitalism. Your distinction is one without a difference. The closest we have on the planet to pure capitalism is Somolia, no centralized government, no regulations, no taxes etc. That place should be thriving if economic systems alone determined a country's success/failure.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Don't you have some carrots to lick?

Yeah...similarities are there. Laugh all you want. You're only making yourself out to be the board's biggest idiot with each rectal itching post at a time!

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Ok, I'll start, they were both old when running for President.

What are the rest?
DrafterX
14 years ago
Is Ron Paul's wife hot..?? 😕
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Is Ron Paul's wife hot..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:



I forgot about that one, who has the hottest wife. That's an important thing for the country, whether or not the first lady is f*ckable.
DrafterX
14 years ago

I forgot about that one,

FuzzNJ wrote:





[-x 😳 😳
borndead1
14 years ago

So, no country has ever had a 'pure' economic system. Europe isn't perfect socialism either even though it's not on the extreme sides like communism and capitalism. Your distinction is one without a difference. The closest we have on the planet to pure capitalism is Somolia, no centralized government, no regulations, no taxes etc. That place should be thriving if economic systems alone determined a country's success/failure.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Good lord....why is it that everyone who doesn't believe in free markets and small government use Somalia as an example of Libertarianism at work? Do you people all read the same blogs or something?

Libertarianism is not about having "no centralized government". What we believe in is a small centralized government with limited power and a limited role in economic and social issues.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Good lord....why is it that everyone who doesn't believe in free markets and small government use Somalia as an example of Libertarianism at work? Do you people all read the same blogs or something?

Libertarianism is not about having "no centralized government". What we believe in is a small centralized government with limited power and a limited role in economic and social issues.

borndead1 wrote:



Two questions. How do you think a more isolationist government would improve the economy? Just cutting spending is not gonna do it either, the economy needs to grow, not go into recession. And if socialism is a failure, communism a failure and capitalism is the best system, why does China own our ass? The standard response is we spent too much, but it happened in a capitalist system. If it were the best we shouldn't be having economic problems ever. Sure, cut more taxes for the 'job creators' and corporations, get rid of regulation and everything will get better. If that were true we're going in the opposite direction as all that has happened is all the money is flowing and staying at the top screwing the 99%. It would only get even worse and ruin what little of the republic we have left.

And Somalia is used because it is the best example of a place with no government regulations, no . . .all the rest. Could have said Sudan, Afghanistan.

Pure libertarianism doesn't exist and it's suppositions assume too many factors, like a corporation will 'do the right thing' based on conscience and reputation. You think that's working now? It's like Communism's assumption that there are no greedy bastards who want everything. We know that's not the case, just look at the leaders of these countries.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
I think we can all agree that President Obama has already clinched his re-election.

Four more years!
teedubbya
14 years ago

I think we can all agree that President Obama has already clinched his re-election.

Four more years!

HockeyDad wrote:



I know it's just symantics but I think it would be more accurate to say the Republicans have already clinched Obamas re-election for him.

Or as my neighbor Dat Nguyn (or however he spells it) said the other night "I just can't wait for the erection to be over"
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Friend --

When you become president, one thing that happens overnight is that you and everyone you love get a bunch of new nicknames.

I was already pretty used to this. But "FLOTUS," short for First Lady of the United States, is really something else.

I'm writing because our FLOTUS, Michelle, turns 48 on Tuesday, and I know I'm not her only fan out there.

Will you join me in wishing her a happy birthday?

The decision to become part of this campaign was deeply personal for a lot of people, and Michelle and I are no exception. But we both knew, like anyone else who believes in what we're trying to do here, that this was never going to be easy.

This fall, Michelle and I will have been married 20 years. The next 10 months will be harder than any we've experienced together, and I couldn't do it without her. I know she'd love to hear from you today:

http://my.barackobama.com/For-Michelle 

Thanks for your support,

Barack
wheelrite
14 years ago
definition of a RP enthusiast/sycophant

syc·o·phant   
noun
a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite.



Synonyms
toady, yes man, flunky, fawner, flatterer.
HockeyDad
teedubbya
14 years ago
he is the only one. just read all his books until you understand
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

he is the only one. just read all his books until you understand

teedubbya wrote:



Sounds kinda messianic.
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