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14 years ago
My understanding is that last week, polls right after South Carolina's Primary Election showed Gingrich surging ahead with a 10% or so lead over Romney. Now, at least one poll shows that Romney has "bridged the gap" and may even be ahead by 2%, making the race a statistical "dead heat", if you will. Moreover, approximately 7-10% are "undecided" and of those polled who will be voting for Romney or Gingrich, upwards of 20-25% say they may decide to change who they will vote for. Crazy, yet interesting, huh?

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
Sorry, but Romney held a double digit lead last week that's now gone.

I don't care for either one of those Progressive tools so let them slug it out.

America deserves better.
wheelrite
14 years ago
I love to watch all the kicking and scratching
jackconrad
14 years ago
The Romney Moneyslaught hath begun..
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
Anyone notice how Limbaugh and Hannity are bringing up more negatives and questioning Newt harder than Romney now? It's fun watching them carry the establishment's water for them while pretending not to.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Anyone notice how Limbaugh and Hannity are bringing up more negatives and questioning Newt harder than Romney now? It's fun watching them carry the establishment's water for them while pretending not to.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Nope, do tell you Dittohead you've been Hannitized!
Ragin' Cajun
14 years ago
I can't listen to those guys much anymore. They are entertainers, not newsmen. Sadly, too many talking heads on both sides pass themselves off as purveyors of absolute truth when the only truth is they just want to milk as much money as they can from their minions.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
The question I keep aksin' myself is why all of a sudden (last 24- 48 hours) are so many Republican luminaries and establishment types attacking Gingrich in a concerted effort to nominate their boy Romney? What is their motivation? Newt's electability? Newt's arguably more conservative than the once self-acclaimed progressive Romney who in the 90's proudly claimed he had "no ties to the party of Reagan". Connection to Fannie Mae? Romney has indirectly invested millions in same. Inability to play well with other Republican "business as usual" Republicans? Viagra Bob raised his gimp arm to accuse Gingrich of being a "one man band" and responsible for hurting his presidential ambitions. So what??? This loser phony was the original McLame & is angry because Gingrich never kissed his ring. They (including Ron Routine Getting Very Old Paul) claim he betrayed Reagan's ideals. Bullcrap. I heard Nancy & even Ronnie himself refer to Newt in very glowing terms and as the flag bearer of Reaganism after the Great One was gone.

Everyone is coming out against Newt or critical of him- Elliott Iran Contra Abrams, Anne Conveniently Obnoxious Coulter, Jeb Don't call me Shemp Bush, Bobby Third Eye for Perry Jindall, Marco Play Along Rubio, Tom I'm a Lying Thief Delay...
Hey, Newt is not my ideal candidate but I've lost a lot of respect for the aforementioned folks.

Looks as though Mitt Business As Usual Romney will win next week and is well on the way to winning the Republican nomination after the next series of primaries in states he previously won (coincidental timing, isn't it?)- thanks to the concerted of traitorous, multi-generational long knives & Newt's poor performance in the Florida debate. Too bad because Mitt My Daddy was Born in Mexico Romney is not electable & will burden us with 4 more years of Obama IMHO.
[ram27bat]
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Bloody,

I said a long time ago that Ron Paul would be destroyed. Mitt Romney was the designated loser to Obama.

People should have been using that insider information and trading on it. Even FuzzNJ could have done it instead of just letting everyone get over on him.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Bloody,

I said a long time ago that Ron Paul would be destroyed. Mitt Romney was the designated loser to Obama.

People should have been using that insider information and trading on it. Even FuzzNJ could have done it instead of just letting everyone get over on him.

HockeyDad wrote:




Some just can't shake the "victim" mentality.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Bloody,

I said a long time ago that Ron Paul would be destroyed. Mitt Romney was the designated loser to Obama.

People should have been using that insider information and trading on it. Even FuzzNJ could have done it instead of just letting everyone get over on him.

HockeyDad wrote:



Courtesy of various loopholes, members of both the House and Senate have long been allowed to trade on inside information, something that grabbed the media's attention when back in November 2005 someone, somewhere sent the stock of USG Corp., W.R. Grace & Co., and Crown Holdings higher even though there was no public information. Only later would it become known that then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist would deliver a speech announcing new legislation to relieve companies of asbestos litigation. Subsequent studies (such as Ziobrowski et al's 2004 paper “Abnormal Returns from the Common Stock Investments of the United States Senate.”) confirmed substantial market outperformance by members of Senate. A few days ago, Ziobrowski et al, have released a follow up study "Abnormal Returns From the Common Stock Investments of Members of the U.S. House of Representatives" which confirms that not only do congressional critters consistently outperform the market, but does a granular analysis of just who it is in congress that should consider leaving the public arena, and raising capital to start their own hedge fund: simply said, junior, democratic congressmen beat the market by roughly the same amount, with the same consistency (and probably with the same Sharpe ratio) that allows SAC to charge 3% and 35%.
In a nutshell, the latest stereotype is that if one is a junior democrat in Congress, and one trades for their own discretionary account, one most likely is doing so using insider information.
The conclusion.
In sum, the findings from this study of the U.S. House of Representatives’ common stock transactions are generally supportive of the previous study of the U.S. Senate. We find strong evidence that Members of the House have some type of nonpublic information which they use for personal gain. That having been said, abnormal returns earned by Members of the House are substantially smaller than those earned by Senators during approximately the same time period. These smaller returns are due presumably to less influence and power held by the individual Members. The nature and source or sources of information is unknown, but clearly further research is warranted. We recommend that congressional committees should be studied for abnormal returns and indications that members of those committees may favor stocks in industries their committees oversee. Abnormal returns associated with the common stocks of specific industries or companies should be investigated for patterns of potential misconduct. We suggest the examination of the relationships between campaign contributions, common stock acquisitions, and abnormal returns.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/why-hedge-fund-comprised-junior-congressional-democrats-should-outperform-market-9 


Stuart P. Green, JD, Professor of Law and Justice Nathan L. Jacobs Scholar at Rutgers School of Law, wrote in his May 13, 2008 email to ProCon.org:

"People in many fields of endeavor are privy to valuable confidential information before it is made public: For example, business executives, investment bankers, and lawyers have access to information about impending corporate mergers and acquisitions; Judges, juries, and court personnel have access to information about the probable outcome of court decisions; and officials at the FDA [Food and Drug Administration], EPA [Environmental Protection Agency], and other administrative agencies have access to information about the likely outcome of regulatory proceedings. All of these individuals are prohibited by law from using such confidential information in the purchase and sale of publicly traded stocks. Likewise, members of Congress and their staffs are also privy to valuable confidential information not yet made public. They have information about the likely outcome of various votes, committee proceedings, and investigations. Such information can be extremely valuable to investors. Those who buy and sell stock on the basis of such non-public information will have an obvious advantage over those who lack such information. This is not the sort of information that even the most savvy and sophisticated investor would be able to obtain legally. From a moral perspective, such informational advantages are indistinguishable from those enjoyed in more familiar forms of insider trading."

"'Senators' stocks beat the market by 12%' blared a headline in the Financial Times. So what? Isn't beating the market what everyone tries to do?... Like corporate executives, senators also have access to valuable inside information. They are aware of likely changes in the tax laws, government contracts, research funding, trade negotiations, etc. Any of these may have profound ramifications for the various companies or industries involved. In addition, those in Congress have the power to help or hurt individual companies and industries by changing the laws. This also can impact share price.

Unlike corporate executives, congressmen can trade common stocks without restriction, buying and selling as much as they want whenever they want. They may vote on issues in which they have a personal financial interest. Furthermore, Senate members are not required to report their transactions to the Securities and Exchange Commission like corporate insiders...

In fairness, just because they have the power to earn 'unfair' profits in the stock market does not necessarily mean they use it. Two-thirds of senators do not trade stocks at all and, so far, not a single member has admitted trading stocks based on confidential information he or she obtained on the job. The evidence, however, is rather compelling. In beating the market by 12% per year, the chance that they merely are lucky is very small."

May 2005 - Alan J. Ziobrowski, PhD

Sheila Kaplan, MA, Lecturer in the Political Reporting Program at the University of California at Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism, wrote in the article "Trust Busters" published in the Sep./Oct. 2005 issue of Mother Jones:

"Federal agency officials are generally prohibited from buying and selling stock in the companies they oversee. But Congress long ago exempted itself from ethics rules regarding investments. At one time this exemption made sense: Farmers wanted to be able to serve on the Agriculture Committee without selling their farms, for example. But many lawmakers now interpret this exception as carte blanche to invest after taking office.

...Some members, seeking to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest, avoid buying stock or stow their assets in blind trusts. Others invest only in index funds or in diversified mutual funds. But a substantial share of House members and senators trade enthusiastically -- or, like Biggert [US Representative Judy Biggert (R-Ill)], permit their spouses and children to do so. An examination of the latest batch of financial disclosure reports, filed this summer for calendar year 2004, shows that dozens of lawmakers routinely buy and sell stock in industries they oversee, raising questions about whether they have an unfair advantage over the average investor."
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
🤔

Maybe an investigative show like "60 Minutes" should at least do a segment on that.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
I hate cut 'n paste with a passion. Too dry & usually full of tangential, irrelevant info.
I've found it to be a tool for those who are either intellectually lazy or simply can't grasp and/or communicate their interpretation of the subject matter in a clear and succinct manner.

Can't you encapsulate, Fuzz?
HockeyDad
14 years ago



In fairness, just because they have the power to earn 'unfair' profits in the stock market does not necessarily mean they use it. Two-thirds of senators do not trade stocks at all and, so far, not a single member has admitted trading stocks based on confidential information he or she obtained on the job. The evidence, however, is rather compelling. In beating the market by 12% per year, the chance that they merely are lucky is very small."

FuzzNJ wrote:




What is comes down to is you think you saw smoke, therefore there must be a fire, therefore they are guilty as charged.

I can beat the market by 12% a year and nobody has presented any non-public information that was acted on. All I've seen is stuff anyone could have got from Jim Cramer.

We just don't like seeing other people win.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
Kinda like winning the lotto...ya can't win if ya don't play!🐴
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I hate cut 'n paste with a passion. Too dry & usually full of tangential, irrelevant info.
I've found it to be a tool for those who are either intellectually lazy or simply can't grasp and/or communicate their interpretation of the subject matter in a clear and succinct manner.

Can't you encapsulate, Fuzz?

bloody spaniard wrote:



HD is insisting I'm just seeing smoke, making sh*t up, it's a crazy thing I brought up and said there is nothing there, no concern and it's all blown out of proportion. He wanted more info, I provided it. Simple as that. As usual though, he ignores it outright and continues to accuse me of just making crap up and for saying everyone is guilty, both things I did not do. Want to get upset about c & p then I suppose you should be upset with the people asking for proof I didn't make crap up. Simple.

Just look how HD dismisses the studies. He can beat the market at a higher rate than normal investors and that means the fact that elected officials do that consistantly doesn't mean a thing. Silly. It's got nothing to do with being mad at winning, it's a matter of public corruption and how easy it is for it to happen in this particular way. Frankly, I find it amusing that the conservatives on the board aren't upset up this, they love to hate corrupt politicians, or so I thought.
teedubbya
14 years ago
I always liked Newt. Looking back on it I think I liked him because he constantly tweeked and threw hand grenades at the wacky dems. It was a game. I helped campaign for one of his right hand people (Nussle)

Watching the debate last night I could never vote for him for Pres.

This is deperessing.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

He wanted more info, I provided it. Simple as that. As usual though, he ignores it outright and continues to accuse me of just making crap up and for saying everyone is guilty, both things I did not do.

FuzzNJ wrote:




You never could provide any no-public insider information.

....and poor little you is being victimized by big bad Le HockeyDad! Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
^ Yes, you are a bully conehead. LOL

I always liked Newt...
Watching the debate last night I could never vote for him for Pres.
This is deperessing.

teedubbya wrote:




Why on both counts?
How will it affect you and yours? Despite whoever wins, the country will continue on it's gradual decline for the time being at least. You have no control over that.


Fuzz, I can appreciate that explanation but I just find most cut 'n paste to be long, drawn-out bullshiite & I ignore them. Speaks droves to me about the poster when they toss what usually amounts to a another party's (usually subjective) point of view into the fray. Figures don't lie but liars figger.... HAHAHAHA
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

You never could provide any no-public insider information.

....and poor little you is being victimized by big bad Le HockeyDad! Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!

HockeyDad wrote:



Ok. Do you think that no elected official has ever traded on inside information provided to them in the course of their job? If so, provide your proof.

Or do you think that it is a possibility based on the evidence or just crazy that it's not illegal just like for corporate insiders? If so you are arguing over nothing.
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