HockeyDad
14 years ago
I realize I just used some undefined buzz words that perhaps need some clarification. When investing around warfare it is important to understand the buzzwords so you can properly assess the timetable for war and thus the timetable for entering and exiting investments.

Immunity Zone: This is a relatively new buzzword that is used to describe the point where the Iranian nuclear program is so spread out and hardened that military strikes would be of no value. Once entering the Immunity Zone, Iran could then begin to develop a nuclear weapon if they chose to do so. The current war plan being floated is to attack Iran before the enter the Immunity Zone which is before they start developing a nuclear weapon, not before they finish a nuclear weapon. Nobody knows when the Immunity Zone date starts.

Existential Threat: Something that threatens the very existence of Israel. This term is used daily by right wing Israeli politicians and has been used to describe an Arab with a butter knife, a flock of seagulls pooping on a Mercedes parked at the beach, the Iranian nuclear program, and anything in between.



Next we need to tackle some war terms that help ease the whole conscience thing with death and destruction being a byproduct of war. If you're going to invest for war or chimp scream for war even while praying for peace, you gotta toughen up a bit. Heck, Topper can't even post on the politics board anymore just from reading this thread and that kind of behavior is way too soft.

Collateral Damage: This is what happens when your weapons miss their target and kill civilians and non-military property. The neat thing about the term it is is used both for dead people and blown up buildings so it equates a mother holding her child that has been blown in half with an outhouse that got blown up. Remember, we are trying to take the whole human factor/guilt out of this. If you see the pictures of the child blown in half and then start feeling guilty that you own stock in Boeing that made the bomb that did it, you lose your ability to invest clearly.

Purposeful Disregard for Civilian Life, a Violation of the Geneva Convention, and Terrorism: This is the term for when your enemy's weapons miss their target and kill civilians and non-military property.

Casualty: Dead people. Casualty sounds much better, agreed? It sounds more like someone is just strolling along with their hands in their pockets while wearing a new pair of Dockers.

Acceptable Losses: Cars use oil, Cars lose hubcaps, sometimes you drop a $5 bill, insurance deductibles......all acceptable losses. OK, here acceptable losses are how many dead people(military or civilian) we can have before the chances of having a parade afterwards turn into a better chance that there will be board of inquiries, indictments, and forced retirements.
Stinkdyr
14 years ago
Can we move Israel to Vieques yet?

Seriously, it would be so much cheaper.


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DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Can we move Israel to Vieques yet?

Seriously, it would be so much cheaper.


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Stinkdyr wrote:




Think they'd want too?

They could have like this whole vacation resort once they clean up all the empty shells...but they're used to that!
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
Saudi Arabia Will Not Let Oil Go Above $100

An "element of fear" is playing into the price of oil despite higher supply and decreasing demand, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al Saud told CNBC Monday.

Bin Talal, the billionaire member of the Saudi Arabian royal family who runs the Kingdom Holding Co., said the fear comes from "what may happen with Iran and the possibility of closing the Hormuz Strait."

But Saudi Arabia has already said it will not let the price of oil, which closed Monday around $97 a barrel, go above $100, bin Talal said.

"We can use our leverage, our excess capacity to be sure to pump more 🛢 if needed so it will not impact the consumer countries while they’re getting out of their recessions slowly but surely," the prince said.

As for Iran, he said it is important for the U.S. and other nations to put sanctions on the "renegade country" to force its government to negotiate. Issuing an ultimatum of war would push Iran to the "desperate move" of blocking the vital oil shipment waterway.

"I believe a solution is not impossible with them," bin Talal said of Iran. "A dialog is the best way to do it."

But if the strait is blocked he believes the U.S. can reopen the strait "very quickly." He added he wants a "nuclear-free" region, which means Israel should give up its nuclear arsenal, too.

He said the European debt crisis is "pulling down the growth of the world economies" and it is important for the European Union countries to "get their house in order because this can't go on indefinitely." Greece leaving the EU would set a bad precedent, he added, and could lead to the disintegration of the euro.

The prince, Citigroup's [C 33.30 ] biggest shareholder, said CEO Vikram Pandit has brought the bank "out of the wilderness" and expects the company to pay a dividend or buy back shares sometime this year, once it gets clearance from the Federal Reserve .

Bin Talal, also a major shareholder in News Corp. [NWSA 19.56 --- UNCH ]and Apple [AAPL 463.97 ], said he recently invested $300 million in Twitter, saying the huge number of its users makes it a "force to be reckoned with." He hasn't invested in Facebook, he said, but "we never say no to anything."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46285933 


Yeah...that's gonna keep the beach ball under the water longer...yeah.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
First of all, the Saudis are ****ting bricks thinking about the people's Spring headed their way & will promise the (crescent ) moon for protection. In the meantime, they fund West- hating madras which produced the Twin Tower sabouteurs and the Bushes will continue to literally walk hand in hand with Saudi royalty whispering words of unrequited love into their hairy ears.

Secondly, the EU will cut away Greece, Ireland, & Portugal (unfortunately nothing but deadweight anyway) & infuse large amounts of aid into Spain & Italy because they still have large industrial infrastructures. Britain, the Netherlands and a few other anemic northern European countries are also on death watch. Keep in mind that Europe has more gold than the USA... thus, our perfect storm will be larger.

Thirdly, Vieques don't want no stinkin' jews nor any other immigrants. Had family that owned vast stretches of that once tropical paradise only to have the gringos buy it up pennies on the dollar & then use it for target practice. The indigenous population was happy to see the Americans stick it to the Spanish hacienda-owning "man".

Tapping foot & waiting impatiently for other shoe to fall on Iran.
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teedubbya
14 years ago
I remember a day when the spaniards had balls. now they are a second or third teir country pushed aside by neuvo trailer park money.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
You gotta love it when we rest our economic impact hopes on a Saudi prince who is a major shareholder in FoxNews and the largest shareholder of Citigroup! Notice how he sneaked the part in about Israel should also give up their nuclear weapons. Sounds like a fair deal.....Israel gives up its nukes and Iran gives up their nuke ambitions. We shall await the Israeli lobby response!

Meanwhile oil has ranged from $76 to $114 over the past 12 months.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
Hi, Chachi (TW). Hope you're feeling better.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
I cannot support any relocation of Israelis to Vieques.

1. This is really only Israel's second attempt at an independent country in thousands of years and we need to give them a chance to make it work.

2. All Puerto Ricans carry knives and are hot tempered so I think the mix would be dangerous.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

I remember a day when the spaniards had balls. now they are a second or third teir country pushed aside by neuvo trailer park money.

teedubbya wrote:




You remember before the Spanish-American War?!

bloody spaniard
14 years ago
I inadvertently erased my previous post... but to encapsulate:

Thanks, HD.

Since I don't read the daily rags & national "unbiased news" (laughable) magazines any more, I rely on a mix of Fox, CNN, Al Jazeera, Russian channel (273 ?), Piers Morgan, and a few botl like you to provide me with the latest & greatest.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
Puerto Riqueños love their music, booze & fine clothes. If you can get jews to open up more distilleries & discount shopping outlets there, they will we welcomed with opened abrazos.
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HockeyDad
14 years ago
Wanna see a good movie?

"Lebanon"

http://www.amazon.com/Lebanon-Reymond-Amsalem/dp/B003Y5H5II/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328629931&sr=8-1 

Trailer at:


It is about an Israeli tank crew in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

This is an Israeli-made movie, not Hollywood so it is a bit more edgy. People who chimp scream for war or invest for war need to be able to watch movies like this. It helps develop the hardened shell necessary.
teedubbya
14 years ago
[quote=HockeyDad]Wanna see a good movie?

"Lebanon"
quote]


Meh...

"Lesbian" staring Gina Gershon is much better
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
Saw it last year. It was a bit slow & EXTREMELY depressing.
Hard to believe that the common Israeli enlisted man challenges his commanding officers like that...
teedubbya
14 years ago
How was it depressing? I thought it was hot
bloody spaniard
14 years ago

How was it depressing? I thought it was hot

teedubbya wrote:




I'd like to see you go weeks without bathing/shaving with a rotting corpse in your passenger seat and urine backwash on your floorboards...
oh wait, you do.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
"Waltz With Bashir" and Beaufort" our two more movies out of Israel. These can be found on youtube even.
DrafterX
14 years ago

I'd like to see you go weeks without bathing/shaving with a rotting corpse in your passenger seat and urine backwash on your floorboards...

bloody spaniard wrote:






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teedubbya
14 years ago

I'd like to see you go weeks without bathing/shaving with a rotting corpse in your passenger seat and urine backwash on your floorboards...
oh wait, you do.

bloody spaniard wrote:



dude are you inviting me on a roadtrip?
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