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RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#41

ZRX1200 , 21

WHEN ORDERED BY SOME IDIOT
CONGRESSMAN, NOT WHEN YOUR WIFE
AND HER DOCTOR DECIDE IT WOULD BE
A GOOD IDEA FOR HER PROTECTION

WHAT IF SOME SENATOR DECIDCED AND
INTRODUCED A BILL DEMANDING AND IT
BECAME LAW FOR YOU TO HAVE A
COLONOSCOPY WHETHER YOU WANTED
OR NEEDED IT.

THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS MORONS
CALL KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT SMALL
AND NOT INTERFERRING IN YOUR
PERSONAL LIFE.

PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG

TAILGATOR 22

YOUR MAKING A JOKE.

WHEN DID YOU AGREE THAT PASSING A
LAW ALLOWING FORCED INTERNAL
EXAMINATION OF A WOMAN'S VAGINA IS A
NORMAL PROCEDURE ACCEPTABLE
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

FuzzNJ 24

I THINK THEY ARE MAKING THE FUNNY
AND WE BOTH BIT.

wheelrite 27

WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO
WITH KILLING A BABY/

TOMORROW YOU WILL PURCHASE AT
YOUR OWN EXPENSE A GALLON OF
COLON CLEANER AND DRINK IT ALL

THE NEXT MORNING WEAR CLEAN
UNDERWEAR AND PREPARE TO HAVE A
YARD OF TUBING SHOVED UP YOR ASS
SO THE DOCTOR'S APPRENTICE CAN
EXAMINE YOUR LOWER INTESTINE. YOU
ARE LOOKING A LITTLE PEAKED.

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#42

dpnewell

HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN

NO MATTER HOW YOU SHAKE AND DANCE, THE LAST FEW DROPS FALL ON YOUR PANTS.

gringococolo
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14 years ago

#43

The real problem here is a lack separation between church and state. The people who see abortion as murder do so because of religious believes (God knows it not based on scientific ones).

If people would stop trying to force their religious beliefs on others, abortion would not be an issue . . . .

Brewha wrote:

****,

You ever watched a 22 week baby being born prematurely? I have. Though that baby's lungs were too small to survive it was alive for a few minutes while it feebly withered away in its mothers arms.

Abortion is murder, just like the death penalty. It's just sanctioned murder. It has nothing to do with religion, I'm not even against it. But it is what it is.

I would like to watch you break down in the fetal position on the floor while watching a mans wife scream in agony as that baby died. Watch that baby go limp.

You cry baby liberals are the weakest individuals on earth. Talk a big game on science versus religion to mask your lack of ability to stand up and have courage and faith on something greater than your ego.

I hope the worst for you and your weak cohorts. Don't mask the issue.

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#44

Uncle Rick I agree about the big government and Repubs but under what circumstances has an abortion ever protected or saved a womans life?

Abortion is a choice not a necessity.

When taking an innocent life that cannot speak for itself yes I do condone some legislation. When you start saying NO to the procedure is a hard one I struggle with to answer in all candor.

Brewha
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14 years ago

#45

gringococolo wrote:

Dude,

Masking the issue with your self-righteous indignation doesn’t change the simple fact that you not only want to push your values on everyone else, but that you're eager to bully people while doing it.

Your God tells you not to have a 1st trimester abortion? No worries, carry your child to term even it you got knocked up by a rapist. God tell you condoms are murder? Guess you go with “rhythm and blues”. Who the hell cares what your values are or what you do – unless it effects others – and there lies the rub.

You push your way into the lives of others because “you know what is right”. You would see us return to back ally abortions because that appeals to your own personal sense of fairness. Smells like conservative sadism – typical ****.

If you really cared so much about the children that COULD come from the unwanted pregnancy then set up an orphanage. Do something positive rather then banging your fist at people smart enough not to fall for your value system. You'd feel better – really.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#46

Rowe vs Wade was actually a veiled scheme to crush the back alley abortionist union.

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#47

gringococolo #63 Posted:

"I hope the worst for you ."

and here i am wishing only that you find
peace and contentment in you and your
family's lives.

me the scourge of the board the man
without religion, the "i have no interest or
need for a god or even the spaghetti
monster god who sees you as an ignorant
fool who thinks capital punishment is
sanctioned murder and like sanctioned
abortion. a fool and a man who is thankful
i never had to face the decision to abort a
fetus.

and there you are a hypocrite wishing a
complete stranger the worst without
knowing anything about me.

but knowing more about you then i care to
i've met entirely too many people like
you who have suffered with someone else's
pain and never cursing your precious god
for allowing the birth of an infant doomed to
die because sh*t happens because you
worship fire and water and the rocks but are
free of sin because someone died on a cross
and freed you of all the evil thoughts and
all of the evil things you will do, like cursing me

slavery was ended in this country by liberals.
medical care for everyone who needs it by
liberals.
liberals forced the end of he viet nam war
after the country slaughtered 55,000
youngsters for no reason at all.

old people are able to eat when they are too
old to work because liberals planned for the
inevitable lack of money when poor people
were old and worn out,

you are no more then an uneducated fool
who has an unimportant cause that is the
center of your life, because abortion is the
easy thing to be against .

no one is for abortion, what people are for
is that hypocrites like you to mind your own
business and stop telling others what they
should do because of a book of mythology.

good luck on wishing the worst for me and
god bless tiny tim.

Brewha
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14 years ago

#48

ZRX1200 wrote:

I could imagination circumstances where a women would be risking her life if she tried to bring a child to term. Maybe she is just in poor health.

The greater point is it is her life. And it is her choice.

And yes, there is a time limit on when an abortion is not an option. And that should be when the child becomes viable outside of the women.

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#49

I disagree the point isnt her life there's two there.

Brewha
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14 years ago

#50

I disagree the point isnt her life there's two there.

ZRX1200 wrote:

I guess the question then is when does life 2 begin. I don't buy at conception. I'm thinking 3rd trimester . . . .

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#51

i suggest we let the woman and her doctor make the call, unless you think boner or harry reid
or any congressman or senator is a qualified md. and has been treating the patient, some 14 year old girl
who just got gang raped by her drunken steo father and his druggy friends.

this is not a decision to be made by some politician to protect his seat and his privileged parking
at the airport or his free membership in the house gym and before i forget his private bank for the
legislators where they can write overdraft checks with no penalty. perhaps a congressman whose family
comes from a background where young girls have the sensitive part of their honey pocket surgically removed
and he insists we follow his god or cain or able who their god wanted medium rare with a side of fava beans
and a good Chianti. and let's not forget the god of cannibals who prefers boiled people in a big pot, throw in a few
herbs and spices and it tastes like chicken.

we must appease all the gods because people want their religion to be the law of the land.

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#52

I guess the question then is when does life 2 begin. I don't buy at conception. I'm thinking 3rd trimester . . . .

Brewha wrote:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A contrarian is a person who takes up a position opposed to that of the majority, no matter how unpopular. Contrarian styles of argument and disagreement have historically been associated with radicalism and dissent.

borndead1
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14 years ago

#53

I guess the question then is when does life 2 begin. I don't buy at conception. I'm thinking 3rd trimester . . . .

Brewha wrote:

In Roe vs. Wade, the rallying cry of pro-choicers, they said after the 1st trimester. I've heard people say "at the point that the fetus could survive outside the mother's womb"...but medical advances are making it possible for them to survive younger and younger...a few years ago a 21 week old baby was delivered and survived.

This is something that there will NEVER be agreement on, so the only option is compromise. But nobody wants to compromise either.

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#54

borndead1 wrote:

compromise on what ?

Murder is murder...

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#55

a few years ago a 21 week old baby was delivered and survived.

borndead1 wrote:

Damn Tim Tebow's mother![frypan]

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#56

That explains the Wire Coat Hanger scar on your head,,,

wheelrite wrote:

*****ue me running! That's a funny visual!

Thanks for the laughs!

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#57

*****ue me running! That's a funny visual!

Thanks for the laughs!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Johan

That's my role here...

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#58

Yeah, the low hanging fruit is easy to pick!🐴

borndead1
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14 years ago

#59

compromise on what ?

Murder is murder...

wheelrite wrote:

There has to be compromise or we will still be fighting over this 1,000 years from now, and politicians on both sides of the political spectrum will still be using it as a tool to fire up the extreme bases of their parties every election year.

There has to be a discussion. Abortion will never be 100% legal or 100% illegal anywhere, so there has to be compromise.

-When does life begin? The extreme right argues that life begins at conception. While theoretically true, a zygote has no brain, no heart, etc. So the extreme right needs to give a little on this issue. The extreme left thinks that "partial-birth" abortion is OK and that the fetus is still not "legally" a person at this point. This is equally ridiculous and they need to give a little on that.

-How do we balance medical/reproductive freedom and privacy with the need to protect life? The extreme right believes that abortion should be illegal in every case, even when a 14 year old girl is raped by her father. They need to give on this issue. The extreme left believes that abortion is OK as a form of birth control and that insurance companies should be legally required to cover it and taxpayer dollars should pay for it as well. They need to give on this issue.

It really does boil down to compromise. It's the only solution.

Can we compromise, reach a consensus, and decide that a fetus is legally a person at _____ weeks, and has full protection under the law at this point? And then everybody STFU about it?

Brewha
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14 years ago

#60

borndead1 wrote:

The reason it won’t get settled is that someone is always using it to push their beliefs. Note that the above “murder is murder” dogma does not come with an “IMO” – it given as though the US law is summarily wrong - as it does not meet with Papal degree.

It is really tough to shoot down 1st trimester abortions with logic or reason. You have to go to religion and personal mortality. And that is why the law is the way it is.

I guess we could make our all our laws base on religious doctrine – if only there were one that was common religion. No hope of that though, people have been killing in God name as long as there has been a God and still no unity – Hummmmm…..

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